Serious thread on Amish killings here

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There is no questioning the tragedy of what happened, but as I peruse the AP photo wire from today's funerals, I have a different perspective on these people. I live in northern Indiana and there are a lot of Amish communities around here and we run into Amish all the time at the grocery, hospitals, restaurants and I have always kind of rolled my eyes because I really think this is a backward and ridiculous way of life.
But, that said, seeing the pictures of families and the children has be realizing that they are people too and their three-year-old sons are loved just like I love my three-year-old son. Losing a child is something I never want to EVER have to go through and I just hope these people find some sort of peace.
That is all. Sorry to get all serious.
 
Amish, Irish, Muslim, Baptist, Chinese, whatever, tragedy is tragedy.
 
Drock said:
Amish, Irish, Muslim, Baptist, Chinese, whatever, tragedy is tragedy.

Thank you drock.

Although I do wonder if there's a even greater sense of horror among a people who spurn most modern experiences.
 
AlleyAllen said:
Drock said:
Amish, Irish, Muslim, Baptist, Chinese, whatever, tragedy is tragedy.

Thank you drock.

Although I do wonder if there's a even greater sense of horror among a people who spurn most modern experiences.

I'm guessing the sense of loss might be even greater for the community since these people are so isolated (or insolated). I'm not expert, but it seems like all they have are each other in their small communities.
 
Ledbetter said:
AlleyAllen said:
Drock said:
Amish, Irish, Muslim, Baptist, Chinese, whatever, tragedy is tragedy.

Thank you drock.

Although I do wonder if there's a even greater sense of horror among a people who spurn most modern experiences.

I'm guessing the sense of loss might be even greater for the community since these people are so isolated (or insolated). I'm not expert, but it seems like all they have are each other in their small communities.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Such a violent intrusion into their world is unsettling by itself, next to the loss of those girls.
 
If they truly have insisted that some of the money from their victims-assistance fund go to the family and children of the killer, then these people are more truly Christian than anyone since the Founder split.
 
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Fenian_Bastard said:
If they truly have insisted that some of the money from their victims-assistance fund go to the family and children of the killer, then these people are more truly Christian than anyone since the Founder split.

That is truly some divine grace that I can get behind.
 
Fenian_Bastard said:
If they truly have insisted that some of the money from their victims-assistance fund go to the family and children of the killer, then these people are more truly Christian than anyone since the Founder split.

Everything they have said indicates they really are trying to be forgiving all the way around.
 
all the more reason my first reaction hasn't changed:

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Fenian_Bastard said:
If they truly have insisted that some of the money from their victims-assistance fund go to the family and children of the killer, then these people are more truly Christian than anyone since the Founder split.

I'm not ****ting you. Reading that brought a tear to my eye. What a wonderful gesture.
 
king --
Me, too. But "gesture" is too weak a word, I think.
They are doing it as a demonstration of their faith in action. It is a deeply, profoundly religious act.
 
Great thread title. [/sarcasm]

Were there people looking for a playful thread on Amish killings?
 
Fenian_Bastard said:
If they truly have insisted that some of the money from their victims-assistance fund go to the family and children of the killer, then these people are more truly Christian than anyone since the Founder split.

I don;t know why, but after reading that I thought immediately of this, the last paragraph of Lincoln's 1st Innaugural

I am loath to close. We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave to every living heart and hearthstone all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature.
 
shotglass said:
Great thread title. [/sarcasm]

Were there people looking for a playful thread on Amish killings?

Given some of the talk in the other threads, why not set the ground rule for this one? We do it for the baseball threads.
 
AlleyAllen said:
shotglass said:
Great thread title. [/sarcasm]

Were there people looking for a playful thread on Amish killings?

Given some of the talk in the other threads, why not set the ground rule for this one? We do it for the baseball threads.
Agreed... and that was a wonderful action on their part...
 
Fenian_Bastard said:
king --
Me, too. But "gesture" is too weak a word, I think.
They are doing it as a demonstration of their faith in action. It is a deeply, profoundly religious act.

Agreed.

There's a tiny little Amish community about 15 miles south of here (the restaurant has the best damn fried chicken, rolls and pie in the world). My family and I spent a day there once. Nicest people you'd meet. Went to the hardware store, a couple of other places, an antique store, etc. People there just strike up conversations with you, and the sincerity they display in genuine. If I showed half the generosity these people have, my ticket to heaven would have been punched long ago.

Did I mention the pie?
 
i have never looked at amish lifestyle or other so-called simpler lifestyles as backward, just different than mine. the luddite in me appreciates the good in those lifestyles.

as pointed out another thread, i know all groups have their issues, but there are admirable qualities (i.e. forgiveness in the face of such tragedy) that warm the heart and mind. makes me a feel a little bit better about humanity.
 
In a media world where victims and survivors and witnesses and so-called friends/relatives immediately start the clock on their fifteen minutes of fame, it's touching to see the grace and dignity with which these people honor their privacy. No cameras, no interviews, no instant celebrities.

Sad reminder that it's possible to suffer unthinkable tragedy without becoming famous.
 

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