Ron Borges - Plagiarist?

[Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L)]

Read this article at The Cold Hard Football Facts and tell me how what Borges did is any different from what Ken Powers did a couple of years ago.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=1357&Category=1

Powers was fired from the Worcester Telegram and the Globe and Telegram have the same corporate ownership. Somehow I think Borges gets away with this because the Globe is not the paragon of journalistic ethics people would have you believe.

 

[henryhenry]

off with his head!

heresy!


how dare borges use the same words as sando to explain the same facts.
i mean, you've got to shuffle the words around, right? change the clauses or something. use different modifiers and adjectives? ah yes, borges had to write fresh adjectives.


does sando own the facts?
and if anybody else writes the facts, are they "plagiarizing" sando?
how do we know sando was the first to write the same facts? most of what sando wrote could have come out of a press release.


this is so idiotic. such petty jealousy.

plagiarism is not the regurgitation of facts that are part of the public record.
plagiarism is the taking of original writing and thinking that is not part of the public record. sando didn't create anything original about jackson. he simply recounted the facts.

and borges is a plagiarist - off with his head!

how do you say WITCH HUNT?

 

[Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L)]

Jackson was leading the NFL in touchdowns last season when a turf-toe injury forced him to miss the final three games. The injury prevented Jackson from achieving his third 1,000-yard season in four years and the fourth overall.

Jackson still led the Seahawks with 63 catches for 956 yards and 10 touchdowns. He had six plays of at least 40 yards. Jackson set a franchise record with 87 catches in 2004. He has at least 60 catches five times in seven NFL seasons.

But trouble arose in March 2004 when former Seahawks president Bob Whitsitt allegedly shorted Jackson on a contract offer. Jackson said he signed the deal anyway at the urging of his father, who has since died. Whitsitt has dismissed the charge as preposterous, while Ruskell has resisted honoring a promise that a predecessor denies making.

The dispute has escalated ever since, with the Seahawks and Jackson’s agents exchanging a series of blunt letters, sources said.

When Ruskell became Seahawks president in February 2005, one of his first moves was to issue a letter to players outlining his expectations. He urged full participation in the team’s offseason program, including minicamps, but Jackson let it be known he would honor his contract but nothing more. Jackson subsequently skipped the voluntary portions of minicamps.

The relationship soured further after Jackson suffered a knee injury during an Oct. 2, 2005, game at Washington.

Jackson had bruised the knee earlier and experienced pain following a Sept. 25 game against Arizona. He suffered cartilage damage against the Redskins, raising questions in his mind about whether he should have been on the field at all, sources said.

The damage did not show up on initial tests. The team recommended rest. Holmgren avoided giving a timetable other than to say he thought it would be “shorter more than longer” after speaking with Jackson. The team ruled out Jackson for the next game.

Jackson, acting on the advice of Florida-based agents Mooney and Kendall Almerico, sought a second opinion from Dr. John Uribe, a prominent Miami orthopedist known for treating pro athletes.

Jackson underwent surgery to repair his right knee’s lateral meniscus, which consists of cartilage on the outer side of the knee.

He wondered if the team was trying to rush him back. The team resented the implication.

Jackson was leading the NFL in touchdowns last season when a turf-toe injury forced him to miss the final three games. The injury prevented him from reaching his third 1,000-yard season in four years, but Jackson still led Seattle with 63 catches for 956 yards and 10 touchdowns. He has made at least 60 receptions five times in seven seasons.

Trouble arose with Seahawks management two years ago after former team president Bob Whitsitt allegedly shorted Jackson on a contract offer. Jackson said he signed the deal anyway at the urging of his father. Whitsitt has dismissed the charge as preposterous, while present club president Tim Ruskell has refused to honor a promise that another person denies making. The dispute has escalated, with the Seahawks and Jackson's agents exchanging blunt letters.

When Ruskell became Seahawks president in February 2005, one of his first moves was to issue a letter to players outlining his expectations. He urged full participation in the team's offseason program, including minicamps, but Jackson let it be known he would honor his contract, but nothing more. Jackson subsequently skipped the voluntary portions of minicamps.

Problems continued after Jackson suffered a right knee injury on Oct. 2, 2005, against Washington. Jackson had bruised the knee earlier in the season and he suffered cartilage damage against the Redskins, raising questions in his mind about whether he should have been on the field.

The cartilage damage did not show up on initial tests, and the team recommended rest. The team ruled out Jackson for the next game. Jackson, acting on the advice of his agents, sought a second opinion and later underwent surgery to repair the lateral meniscus in his right knee.

That led Jackson to wonder whether the Seahawks had rushed him back. ...

You don't see the blantant similarities? It's almost cut and paste.

 

[Boom_70]

off with his head!

heresy!


how dare borges use the same words as sando to explain the same facts.
i mean, you've got to shuffle the words around, right? change the clauses or something. use different modifiers and adjectives? ah yes, borges had to write fresh adjectives.


does sando own the facts?
and if anybody else writes the facts, are they "plagiarizing" sando?
how do we know sando was the first to write the same facts? most of what sando wrote could have come out of a press release.


this is so idiotic. such petty jealousy.

plagiarism is not the regurgitation of facts that are part of the public record.
plagiarism is the taking of original writing and thinking that is not part of the public record. sando didn't create anything original about jackson. he simply recounted the facts.

and borges is a plagiarist - off with his head!

how do you say WITCH HUNT?

funny - coming from someone who is portrying himself to be henry hect.

 

[henryhenry]

borges and sando did the same thing - a chronology of the facts.

no original thinking - no analysis.


they're both writing about the same player and the same team at the same point in history. the same events.

how the hell could borges' write anything different than sando?

please explain?

 

[Terence Mann]

No two people could ever independently write such similarly worded and structured chronologies. They either both copied from the same source, or one copied from the other. There is no other explanation.

 

[blondebomber]

Wasn't there an anti-Rob Borges web site? Had to do with all his transgressions ranging from his Patriots coverage to boxing stories. I remember reading it a couple years back and thinking, "How is this guy still employed, let alone considered at the top of his profession?" Of course, the site was geared to get people to think that way, but the stuff was pretty daming.

 

[SF_Express]

borges and sando did the same thing - a chronology of the facts.

no original thinking - no analysis.


they're both writing about the same player and the same team at the same point in history. the same events.

how the hell could borges' write anything different than sando?

please explain?

Sorry, Henry. There might be an agenda on the other's part. But this is more than the same facts. Please.

 

[Boomer7]

Somehow I think Borges gets away with this because the Globe is not the paragon of journalistic ethics people would have you believe.

Who are these people of whom you speak? It's not like the Patricia Smith and Mike Barnicle episodes have been forgotten by people within the industry.

 

[bigpern23]

Sorry, Henry. This is way worse than recounting a similar chronology of events.

This was straight-up lifted from one story and put into another. A writer has no business doing that and putting his name on the work.

 

[BigRed]

borges and sando did the same thing - a chronology of the facts.

no original thinking - no analysis.


they're both writing about the same player and the same team at the same point in history. the same events.

how the hell could borges' write anything different than sando?

please explain?

You sound an awful lot like a Borges apologist to me.
Reading the two columns together, it's clear that this was cut and paste.
That's not journalism. It's plagirism. Plain and simple. And Borges should pay the price for it.

 

[busuncle]

"We are aware of the complaint and we are looking into it," said Joe Sullivan, Globe assistant managing editor/sports. "Someone pointed it out to me and we are looking into it."

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003553817

 

[Ike Broflovski]

I just read both versions. Boy, that's pretty bad.

 

[Double Down]

That's pretty bad. An obvious and blatant theft. One or two paragraphs (and maybe even three) with the exact same language and maybe Borges could claim he screwed up, but it's like seven consecutive paragraphs with similar structure and punctuation. For pete's sake, if you're going to steal, at least do some additional rewritting or reporting, or SOMETHING other than move commas around.

 

[shockey]

ron's a long-time buddy. but when i received the email from "cold, hard football facts" yesterday and read the deal, i thought, "uh-oh." it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

 

[Twoback]

off with his head!

heresy!


how dare borges use the same words as sando to explain the same facts.
i mean, you've got to shuffle the words around, right? change the clauses or something. use different modifiers and adjectives? ah yes, borges had to write fresh adjectives.


does sando own the facts?
and if anybody else writes the facts, are they "plagiarizing" sando?
how do we know sando was the first to write the same facts? most of what sando wrote could have come out of a press release.


this is so idiotic. such petty jealousy.

plagiarism is not the regurgitation of facts that are part of the public record.
plagiarism is the taking of original writing and thinking that is not part of the public record. sando didn't create anything original about jackson. he simply recounted the facts.

and borges is a plagiarist - off with his head!

how do you say WITCH HUNT?

You are kidding, right?

 

[henryhenry]

off with his head!

but give every jock/coach/boor serial criminal/drug/basic human civility offender a second chance. and third, fourth, fifth, etc.

infinite patience and compassion for those we write about.

but for colleagues...

he's below contempt! put him out on the streets!

the mob is circling - smelling blood.

 

[Johnny Dangerously]

"Wow, it looks like so-and-so more than likely committed such-and-such."

Oh? Hmm. I see.

"Yeah, and usually that's punishable by termination."

Yeah.





(And this kind of conversation is wrong how?)

Oh, and the comparisons you made? Apples and oranges on multiple levels.

 

[shockey]

hh

it's the business we've chosen, kid. we must be above the fray. that's simply the way it is. even moreso when you hit as hard as my buddy ron has.

 

[Dedo]

I have no inside knowledge whatsoever, but I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that Borges and Sando are part of the same notes exchange network. And I'm convinced those things are more trouble than they're worth.

I used to be involved in those on a couple of different beats, and I was always amazed by the people who saw them as a license to cut-and-paste. Some people think that running a "Material from other sources, blah, blah, blah" tagline at the end of their notes column absolves them from having to attribute, or even change the damn wording, but it doesn't.