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Pffffft. Just like that.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2016297.ece

The Times Of London said:
The music download website whose activities threatened to scupper Russia's entry into the World Trade Organisation (WTO) has been shut down.

The site, Allofmp3.com, was quietly closed as the Kremlin sought to end criticism from the United States that Russia was failing to clamp down on music and video piracy.

However, an alternative site run by the same Moscow company has already emerged. MediaServices says that mp3Sparks.com is legal under Russian law, using many of the same arguments advanced in support of allofmp3.com.

"Scupper" ... now there's a word you don't see in American newspapers.
 
Johnny Dangerously said:
I still had a credit balance with them. Damn.

A co-worker had $17 on her balance. Damn.

Given their legal situation I ran my balance down into the negative months ago.
 
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Diabeetus said:
That's what you get for paying for music in the first place ;)

I've said this before and I'll say it again: The people who write and perform the music you listen to have the right to be paid for their work. Their money comes from royalties on sales. If you want to have good music to listen to, you have a responsibility to repay the people who make that music.

Downloading is for foofs.
 
2muchcoffeeman said:
Diabeetus said:
That's what you get for paying for music in the first place ;)

I've said this before and I'll say it again: The people who write and perform the music you listen to have the right to be paid for their work. Their money comes from royalties on sales. If you want to have good music to listen to, you have a responsibility to repay the people who make that music.

Downloading is for foofs.
The majority of the artists' money comes from other things (i.e. concerts, endorsements, etc.) Record companies get a majority of the profits from record sales, therefore I have no problem doing so.
 
Coffee, the next time you buy a CD, remember that it takes the record company a whopping $3 to produce. CD, jewel case, book, etc.
I ain't paying that mark-up.
 
markvid said:
Coffee, the next time you buy a CD, remember that it takes the record company a whopping $3 to produce. CD, jewel case, book, etc.
I ain't paying that mark-up.

More like 30 cents.
 
AllTunes (a software program to browse Allofmp3's catalogue and buy songs) still seems to be working...

Also, mp3Sparks.com seems to have the exact same songs as allofmp3
 
A foof, yes, I be.
Without paying any fee.
They're looking for me.
 
Diabeetus said:
2muchcoffeeman said:
Diabeetus said:
That's what you get for paying for music in the first place ;)

I've said this before and I'll say it again: The people who write and perform the music you listen to have the right to be paid for their work. Their money comes from royalties on sales. If you want to have good music to listen to, you have a responsibility to repay the people who make that music.

Downloading is for foofs.
The majority of the artists' money comes from other things (i.e. concerts, endorsements, etc.) Record companies get a majority of the profits from record sales, therefore I have no problem doing so.

And the studio musicians get their money from .... where, exactly? Some of it comes from royalty payments.

I have no problem with sacking up and paying the people most of us have never heard of.
 
As good as you are
Downloading will still go far
Play them in my car
 
markvid said:
Coffee, the next time you buy a CD, remember that it takes the record company a whopping $3 to produce. CD, jewel case, book, etc.
I ain't paying that mark-up.

How much you think it cost to produce the shirt you're wearing today? Weigh that against the price. Mark-up on clothing is obscene. Doesn't give you the right to steal it.
 
2muchcoffeeman said:
Diabeetus said:
That's what you get for paying for music in the first place ;)

I've said this before and I'll say it again: The people who write and perform the music you listen to have the right to be paid for their work. Their money comes from royalties on sales. If you want to have good music to listen to, you have a responsibility to repay the people who make that music.

Downloading is for foofs.

Two things.
First, you actually paid for music at allofmp3.com (just not very much).
Second, the music industry simply has to change. Songs should be made available directly from the bands in a digital format that cut down on the waste on their end and the cost on our end -- like iTunes, but cheaper. Then everybody wins.
 
Diabeetus said:
2muchcoffeeman said:
Diabeetus said:
That's what you get for paying for music in the first place ;)

I've said this before and I'll say it again: The people who write and perform the music you listen to have the right to be paid for their work. Their money comes from royalties on sales. If you want to have good music to listen to, you have a responsibility to repay the people who make that music.

Downloading is for foofs.
The majority of the artists' money comes from other things (i.e. concerts, endorsements, etc.) Record companies get a majority of the profits from record sales, therefore I have no problem doing so.


You send checks to the producer, the session players and the non-performing songwriters?

How about the artists who are playing the 500-seat venues? They're raking it in there? And what are these "endorsements" that bring in so much money?
 
ADifferentOkie said:
2muchcoffeeman said:
Diabeetus said:
That's what you get for paying for music in the first place ;)

I've said this before and I'll say it again: The people who write and perform the music you listen to have the right to be paid for their work. Their money comes from royalties on sales. If you want to have good music to listen to, you have a responsibility to repay the people who make that music.

Downloading is for foofs.

Two things.
First, you actually paid for music at allofmp3.com (just not very much).
Second, the music industry simply has to change. Songs should be made available directly from the bands in a digital format that cut down on the waste on their end and the cost on our end -- like iTunes, but cheaper. Then everybody wins.

Two things:
Whatever not very much you paid there probably didn't go to the people who created the music.
Yes, the music industry does need to change. But that doesn't mean you have the right to say, "You have an outdated business model. I'm going to just take what I want."
 
ADifferentOkie said:
2muchcoffeeman said:
Diabeetus said:
That's what you get for paying for music in the first place ;)

I've said this before and I'll say it again: The people who write and perform the music you listen to have the right to be paid for their work. Their money comes from royalties on sales. If you want to have good music to listen to, you have a responsibility to repay the people who make that music.

Downloading is for foofs.

Two things.
First, you actually paid for music at allofmp3.com (just not very much).
Second, the music industry simply has to change. Songs should be made available directly from the bands in a digital format that cut down on the waste on their end and the cost on our end -- like iTunes, but cheaper. Then everybody wins.

Three things:

1. Read the post I replied to. He's a ****ing taker, not a giver. And downloading is still for foofs.
2. You have a point.
3. Smasher Sloan is right on the money in everything he's posted on this thread.
 

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