Question about Steve Bartman

[sirvaliantbrown]

Did any player stand up for him in the immediate aftermath of the loss? Did anyone say something like, "The guy made a mistake, but he's human and we all make mistakes, and if you make his life difficult our whole team will take it personally, so lay off"?

My vague memory of the chain of events - I didn't follow the fallout intensely at the time - is that nobody said anything of the sort. Since that bothers me as a human, I'm wondering if I have things wrong.

 

[Cadet]

First, thank you for bringing up bad memories. [/longsufferingcubsfangirl]

Second, you're wrong. Less than 24 hours after the incident the organization and players, including Alou, made public statements absolving Bartman.

 

[proudpittsburgher]

The problem with that is Moises Alou's little onfield temper tandrum did more damage to Bartman's image than any of the public statments did good.

 

[Bob Cook]

First, thank you for bringing up bad memories. [/longsufferingcubsfangirl]

Second, you're wrong. Less than 24 hours after the incident the organization and players, including Alou, made public statements absolving Bartman.

"There's no reason to **** all over the guy." -- Moises Alou

 

[playthrough]

The problem with that is Moises Alou's little onfield temper tandrum did more damage to Bartman's image than any of the public statments did good.

Agree. You can make statements 'til the end of time but nothing can ever replace the video.

 

[Captain_Kirk]

The problem with that is Moises Alou's little onfield temper tandrum did more damage to Bartman's image than any of the public statments did good.

Exactly. If he just returns to his position without the drama, no one would have ever heard of Steve Bartman.

 

[Big Circus]

"There's good reason to **** all over my hands." -- Moises Alou

Fixed.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

The ESPN "30 For 30" project will feature a Bartman documentary.

 

[sportsguydave]

The ESPN "30 For 30" project will feature a Bartman documentary.

I'm sure Bartman is thrilled.

 

[CitizenTino]

Wayne Drehs did an awesome E-Ticket feature on Bartman for ESPN.com a few years ago.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=bartman

 

[Mizzougrad96]

My favorite moment in that whole saga was when the guy posed as Bartman and fooled Dan Patrick on SportsCenter.

 

[proudpittsburgher]

My favorite moment in that whole saga was when the guy posed as Bartman and fooled Dan Patrick on SportsCenter.

I'm curious who lost their job over that one, because you know DP wasn't going to stop talking about it until someone did.

 

[tmr]

Dan kind of laughed, actually. It was a Howard Stern guy.

 

[buckweaver]

Wayne Drehs did an awesome E-Ticket feature on Bartman for ESPN.com a few years ago.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=bartman

I remember that one. Can't imagine the "30 for 30" documentary can be any better than that article, unless they get an interview with Bartman.

 

[Den1983]

The problem with that is Moises Alou's little onfield temper tandrum did more damage to Bartman's image than any of the public statments did good.

Bingo. Alou's actions, which reflected the sentiment at the time, definitely spoke louder than his words.

 

[Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!]

Wayne Drehs did an awesome E-Ticket feature on Bartman for ESPN.com a few years ago.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=bartman

I remember that one. Can't imagine the "30 for 30" documentary can be any better than that article, unless they get an interview with Bartman.

It wasn't bad.. It was no Frank Sinatra has a cold (one of the standards for doing a profile w/o actually interviewing the subject).
An interview with Bartman would be great.

 

[LWillhite]

Did any player stand up for him in the immediate aftermath of the loss? Did anyone say something like, "The guy made a mistake, but he's human and we all make mistakes, and if you make his life difficult our whole team will take it personally, so lay off"?

My vague memory of the chain of events - I didn't follow the fallout intensely at the time - is that nobody said anything of the sort. Since that bothers me as a human, I'm wondering if I have things wrong.

Here's how I finished my Bartman (then anonymous) story that night:

After the game ended, the fan apparently stayed in a location where no one could get to him.
In the Cubs' clubhouse approximately 50 yards away, Alou blamed the fan's actions for the Marlins' winning inning.
"Almost 100 percent," he said. "I was there. I kept my eye on the ball. All of a sudden, there's a hand in my way. That could have been the whole game right there.
"At the same time, I feel sorry for the guy," Alou added. "Everybody who goes to a ballpark wants a baseball. Hopefully he doesn't have to regret it for the rest of his life."

 

[I Should Coco]

Ooh, that final quote from Alou stings today, L.W.

While I enjoyed that game immensely as a Sox fan, I still put part of the blame on the Fox TV crew for obsessively focusing on the Bartman play for the rest of the game.

Yeah, it would have been nice for the Cubs if Alou caught that ball, but there were plenty of other plays/pitches/Manager moves that could have been made to change the outcome of that game.

 

[RickStain]

I would just like to point out that I still blame Dusty Baker and will never, ever forgive him.

 

[Shaggy]

Ooh, that final quote from Alou stings today, L.W.

While I enjoyed that game immensely as a Sox fan, I still put part of the blame on the Fox TV crew for obsessively focusing on the Bartman play for the rest of the game.

Yeah, it would have been nice for the Cubs if Alou caught that ball, but there were plenty of other plays/pitches/Manager moves that could have been made to change the outcome of that game.

He had to be escorted away by security with his face covered so Cubs fans wouldn't kill him. And they weren't watching on TV.