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Dick Whitman

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I was pleased that the New York Times relegated the royal birth to its inside pages today. The Wall Street Journal dishonored itself by putting it on A1.

Where should it go?

EDIT: The New York Times actually ran a standalone photo of the birth on A1. Screw them, too.
 
Relegated? Pleased? Dishonored?

Was how to write a weighted question above the fold?
 
**** Whitman said:
I was pleased that the New York Times relegated the royal birth to its inside pages today. The Wall Street Journal dishonored itself by putting it on A1.

Where should it go?

"Dishonoured," if you please. But good work on the relegation reference.
 
**** Whitman said:
I was pleased that the New York Times relegated the royal birth to its inside pages today. The Wall Street Journal dishonored itself by putting it on A1.

Where should it go?

World Briefs.
 
USA Today — America's newspaper — had it as the lead story and six pages inside. SIX!
 
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Bottom of 1A — poorly timed because we're a PM, but taking advantage of a slow day locally.
 
93Devil said:
Which four stories bumps it from page one?

The NYT had six, and did not even give the royal birth a bottom-of-the-page refer:

(1) Decline of "genital cutting" in Africa (soft news);
(2) GSK white collar crime scandal in China (hard news - getting play everywhere);
(3) Former Wall Street enforcer becomes white collar defense attorney (hard news, though only as indicative of a trend);
(4) Qatar is buying up art for exorbitant prices (good combo hard/soft story and seemingly a Times exclusive);
(5) Brazilian inflation (hard/soft news combo - not pressing);
(6) Ryan Braun (hard news).

Other stories today that would be A1 candidates:

(1) Obama's pivot to the economy, evidenced by a series of planned speeches on "middle-out" economics;
(2) Another Brazil story: Pope Francis's visit;
(3) Pentagon addresses Syria;
(4) As Edward Snowden turns;
(5) North Dakota federal court abortion ruling;
(6) Netflix news;
(7) Detroit update;
(8) George Zimmerman helps out at crash scene;
(9) McDonald's news;
(10) Dell news;
(11) Housing market news (1.2 percent decline);
(12) LaGuardia landing gear failure;
(13) Study that puts cybercrime costs much lower than thought (WSJ had this story inside);
(14) EU puts Hezbollah on its terror list;
(15) Earthquake in China kills dozens.
 
**** Whitman said:
93Devil said:
Which four stories bumps it from page one?

The NYT had six:

(1) Decline of "genital cutting" in Africa (soft news);
(2) GSK white collar crime scandal in China (hard news - getting play everywhere);
(3) Former Wall Street enforcer becomes white collar defense attorney (hard news, though only as indicative of a trend);
(4) Qatar is buying up art for exorbitant prices (good combo hard/soft story and seemingly a Times exclusive);
(5) Brazilian inflation (hard/soft news combo - not pressing);
(6) Ryan Braun (hard news).

Other stories today that would be A1 candidates:

(1) Obama's pivot to the economy, evidenced by a series of planned speeches on "middle-out" economics;
(2) Another Brazil story: Pope Francis's visit;
(3) Pentagon addresses Syria;
(4) As Edward Snowden turns;
(5) North Dakota federal court abortion ruling;
(6) Netflix news;
(7) Detroit update;
(8) George Zimmerman helps out at crash scene;
(9) McDonald's news;
(10) Dell news;
(11) Housing market news (1.2 percent decline);
(12) LaGuardia landing gear failure;
(13) Study that puts cybercrime costs much lower than thought (WSJ had this story inside);
(14) EU puts Hezbollah on its terror list;
(15) Earthquake in China kills dozens.

1, 3, 4 and 5 could all get bumped one day, right?

And Braun is not bigger. No way. It's bigger for sports fans, but 50% of sports fans probably don't give a **** either.
 
93Devil said:
**** Whitman said:
93Devil said:
Which four stories bumps it from page one?

The NYT had six:

(1) Decline of "genital cutting" in Africa (soft news);
(2) GSK white collar crime scandal in China (hard news - getting play everywhere);
(3) Former Wall Street enforcer becomes white collar defense attorney (hard news, though only as indicative of a trend);
(4) Qatar is buying up art for exorbitant prices (good combo hard/soft story and seemingly a Times exclusive);
(5) Brazilian inflation (hard/soft news combo - not pressing);
(6) Ryan Braun (hard news).

Other stories today that would be A1 candidates:

(1) Obama's pivot to the economy, evidenced by a series of planned speeches on "middle-out" economics;
(2) Another Brazil story: Pope Francis's visit;
(3) Pentagon addresses Syria;
(4) As Edward Snowden turns;
(5) North Dakota federal court abortion ruling;
(6) Netflix news;
(7) Detroit update;
(8) George Zimmerman helps out at crash scene;
(9) McDonald's news;
(10) Dell news;
(11) Housing market news (1.2 percent decline);
(12) LaGuardia landing gear failure;
(13) Study that puts cybercrime costs much lower than thought (WSJ had this story inside);
(14) EU puts Hezbollah on its terror list;
(15) Earthquake in China kills dozens.

1, 3, 4 and 5 could all get bumped one day, right?

And Braun is not bigger. No way. It's bigger for sports fans, but 50% of sports fans probably don't give a **** either.

Yes, those could all get bumped a day. But why? Putting this story inside is a bold statement by the New York Times, and one I agree with. This is celebrity news of pretty much the worst kind - people who are famous for being famous, essentially. Plus, it seems to go along with the NYT's guiding philosophies. The NYT is no fan of old money. I'm sure the pieces were planned in advance for this day, but it's worth noting that on the day "Princess Kate" gave birth, the New York Times ran A1 stories about genital mutilation among poor women in Africa, as well as a piece about a Qatari woman who is becoming a force in the art dealing world.

(The NYT did have an A1 story last week on the media circus surrounding the birth - frequently a sly way that papers try to both distance themselves from celebrity stories as well as cover them. That being the case, it was probably unlikely that this development gets A1. Follow-ups rarely do in the Times - for example, today's follow to a former A1 story about the possible torching of Picasso and Monet paintings by a Romanian art thief's mother is inside.)
 
I'm not sure I agree with this being a "celebrity story"

This is not the Kanye-Kardashian child. It's the future King of England.
 
Plus, it seems to go along with the NYT's guiding philosophies. The NYT is no fan of old money.

I guess the guiding philosophies have changed over the past ... 14 months.

Royal wedding was lead A1 photo with story in NYT.

NY_wediing_thumb.jpg



If the NYT passed the "real news" test today (they didn't, BTW), they sure as hell flunked the consistency test.
 
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BTExpress said:
Plus, it seems to go along with the NYT's guiding philosophies. The NYT is no fan of old money.

I guess the guiding philosophies have changed over the past ... 14 months.

Royal wedding was lead A1 photo with story in NYT.

NY_wediing_thumb.jpg



If the NYT passed the "real news" test today (they didn't, BTW), they sure as hell flunked the consistency test.

At some point, I guess, so many people are watching something that that becomes news in and unto itself - case in point being the royal wedding. The wedding was a televised event that people watched. I suspect that distinguished the two stories in the NYT's view. The birth was off-camera.

But explain how the birth is real news?
 
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Mizzougrad96 said:
I'm not sure I agree with this being a "celebrity story"

This is not the Kanye-Kardashian child. It's the future King of England.

. . . . .who will wield about as much governing power in England as Kanye West's kid. It's a celebrity family.
 
LongTimeListener said:
I thought The Onion played it about right, with photos and everything.

The Onion has been killing it on this story.

Also, I hope everyone's shops did better than CNN did:

k-bigpic.jpg
 
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Big Circus said:
LongTimeListener said:
I thought The Onion played it about right, with photos and everything.

The Onion has been killing it on this story.

Also, I hope everyone's shops did better than CNN did:

k-bigpic.jpg

That is awesome.
 
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**** Whitman said:
BTExpress said:
Plus, it seems to go along with the NYT's guiding philosophies. The NYT is no fan of old money.

I guess the guiding philosophies have changed over the past ... 14 months.

Royal wedding was lead A1 photo with story in NYT.

NY_wediing_thumb.jpg



If the NYT passed the "real news" test today (they didn't, BTW), they sure as hell flunked the consistency test.

At some point, I guess, so many people are watching something that that becomes news in and unto itself - case in point being the royal wedding. The wedding was a televised event that people watched. I suspect that distinguished the two stories in the NYT's view. The birth was off-camera.

But explain how the birth is real news?

He's the future King. It's a big deal.

Wait unit the Queen kicks the bucket and they have a King. Then wait until Charles kicks the bucket and the have a King they really like.

The coronation of Price William will make the 2012 Olympics look like a block party.
 
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