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There's an assistant coach in my town that's pissed about a recruiting article I wrote last week. He said I made two of that team's players "feel small" with the comments I used from the head coach. I simply reported what the coach told me and that's that.

I go into the coaching office to interview the head coach and the AC starts berating me, saying things like "that was the worst ****ing article I've read by you. You're wearing (county school's) jock (or something to that effect) and it's a good thing you're leaving." (I'm leaving in two weeks for a new job, so...)

What I want to know is how you deal with pissed off coaches. What do you do to get back on their good side or do you just ignore the problem altogether?
 
Just ignore and let him vent. Unless he gets physical or threatens to, it's best to ignore that bull****.
 
Just the way he said it all made me angry. All the other coaches in the office were like "what the **** are you talking about?" when he went on his tirade. Apparently he's the only that felt that way because I talked to the players in question and they're still cool with me.

I can't ****ing wait to get out of this town.
 
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KYSportsWriter said:
DyePack said:
When you leave, send him a jock with that other school's logo.

Thanks for the laugh, Dye. And the great idea. :D

Attach a note saying, "your wife asked me to return this when I was done with it, please tell her thanks."
 
ky - you're going to be deeply disappointed in this business if you allow something like this to play on your mind.

i tell my people that i didn't get into this business to take **** from anyone, and that i don't expect them to take ****, either. next time something like that happens and you don't feel like being confrontational, simply look said asshole in the eye and ask him "is this on record?" it sends a clear message his antics could come back and bite him in the ass.
 
Assistant coach threw a **** party my way tonight for a gamer I wrote last week.

The setup: Opening round, state football playoffs. Hometown beats Podunk 24-20. Podunk had a TD called back in the second quarter because of three penalties on one play -- two holds and unsportsman (running back pranced into the end zone from five yards out).

Could have been a different outcome had the TD not been called back, so I wrote it that way. Hometown catches a break and turned the ensuing turnover into points.

Tonight: Hometown assistant coach bitching "you made it sound like it was the only reason why we won."

Me: "Well, it didn't hurt that Podunk's return man fumbled the ball inside your 20 near the end of the fourth either. That was also in the story, you know."

Shuts him up real fast.
 
Like some have said, if you can't handle that, you need to go over to news, where you'll never run into a pissed off politician.

Seriously speaking here, Tom Petty has a great response, but it's only effective in your case, I believe -- since you are leaving this paper. You have no worries about future access.

I apologize to pissed prep coaches. In one instance, a coach had problems with a story done in the pre-season, and he never mentioned it to me until like a year later. I told him I wished he had brought it to my attention first, so that way I could have run a correction, if one were warranted, or could have written a follow up story.

I also invited this one coach to write a letter to the editor, yet he didn't want to do that.

I treat these coaches well, because their jobs suck, too. If they see you as fair and "on their side" as much as possible, they'll call you in the middle of the night and let you know how they were forced out when the time comes. And that's a good story to have written.

Also, coaches have gotten pissed at me for writing stuff in briefs about their team. Generally these are the coaches never return my calls, refuse to provide me with adequate information on a timely and consistent basis. This is where I become rather assertive.

I calmly tell them that they have my phone numbers, yet I have not heard from them until this point. I explain to them that I have left them messages, and if I could get as much as a 10 minute phone call each week, then they could "control" what gets in the paper about their team.

I usually explain how I have 15 or so schools to cover, which is darned near impossible, and their 10 minute or so phone calls each week comprise much of the information about every team in the paper. And tell them I am not perfect, and rely on their cooperation in order to get the job done. When they don't cooperate, I don't see that they have any reason to *****.

One coach was so ****ing stupid, he had no idea that a letter to the editor is something that is printed. We printed his letter, blasting me out, blaming me for black death.

My editor put a note on the end of it that explained that this coach was the most uncooperative coach in the paper's coverage area. That we had a record of 100 or more phone calls that were not returned in just a few months time, and the only reason we still included his team in the coverage area was because of the countless emails we got from parents requesting coverage -- and this football team wasn't bad. It really made the coach look like an idiot, and despite consecutive 11-2 records, and more than 100 wins in like 12 years, this guy was fired.

It involved other things, mainly he was a poor representative of the school district, or so the school board said when they surprised everyone by announcing in a press release that his contract had not been renewed. So he pissed others off, in addition to myself while trying to cover his team for two seasons.

But, explain when you need to, that you're human, you make mistakes, and you need their help to get the "right" information about their team in the paper. It helps them to help you, or that's my opinion. Also let them know that they can call you and complain, without fear of retaliation. It aids access for future juicy tidbits. Treat them with respect and fairness, and you'll get the same in return.

This method has worked very well for me, sometimes to the point where I became very good friends with some coaches, football, baseball and basketball. In one small town, a weekly I worked at, I was regularly invited to Sunday afternoon barbeques at one coaches house. After a while, I finally accepted and when I got there, lo and behold, several coaches from other schools (along with their families) were there as well. It was kind of fun to drink beer and hang out with them, and I got lots of good information from them -- nothing that was on the record -- but stuff that let me forsee things that were coming down the pipeline, i.e. star player for Podunk won't be there next season because he's addicted to oxycontin, long time coach is retiring b/c he's got cancer, several kids were arrested for pulling pranks, kicked off winning football team that slid in the polls after the kids were booted, and a whole host of tidbits on some of the unethical practices going on in this state's school system.

This kind of knowledge provided me with future questions to certain people that was on the record. It allowed me to know who to ask and what to ask. So dealing with pissed off coaches is tricky business. When you do it poorly, as some have done that I know of, you get nothing in the future and run the risk of the competition beating you on everything.
 
I wrote a column a couple weeks ago and I pissed off one of the teams in my area. I didn't write anything that wasn't true, and actually I was pretty kind. It could have been much worse, but I didn't want to bring too much bad feelings from them. Gues that didn't work. I didn't have to cover them for a couple weeks and when I did it felt odd.
I didn't think I had anything to be sorry for. I never singled out a kid, just overall things for the teams in our area. But, I said I was sorry and didn't mean any malice. He kind of blew me off. I learned long ago that you can't make everybody happy in this business.
 
It won't help now, but in the future, next time an assistant high school football coach tells you one of your stories was the worst article he's ever read, tell him that the (fill in play here) in the third quarter was the worst call you've ever seen.

I did that once and the coach fell right into my trap with "you don't know **** about football."

I said, "Well, you don't know **** about sports writing."

That was the end of that conversation.
 
LazyReporter said:
It won't help now, but in the future, next time an assistant high school football coach tells you one of your stories was the worst article he's ever read, tell him that the (fill in play here) in the third quarter was the worst call you've ever seen.

I did that once and the coach fell right into my trap with "you don't know **** about football."

I said, "Well, you don't know **** about sports writing."

That was the end of that conversation.

Well played, sir! Huzzah to you!
 
crusoes said:
LazyReporter said:
It won't help now, but in the future, next time an assistant high school football coach tells you one of your stories was the worst article he's ever read, tell him that the (fill in play here) in the third quarter was the worst call you've ever seen.

I did that once and the coach fell right into my trap with "you don't know **** about football."

I said, "Well, you don't know **** about sports writing."

That was the end of that conversation.

Well played, sir! Huzzah to you!

Better to do it this way...

You: "That was the worst call I've ever seen."

Coach: "You don't know **** about football."

You: "Neither do you, apparently."

This prevents the coach from using the "neither do you" line if you instead tell him he knows **** about sports writing.
 
i have had a bunch lately. one coach went from saying she liked how i was covering small sports better than in the past to i have a vendetta against her team and her sport. that was ina week. and she hadn't even read one of the articles that she was bitching about!
I told her, sternly, that all she had to say was i missed something, when i did (and it happens to all of us) and I would correct it. but to insinuate that i have anything personal against her team or sport or school is offensive.
then i told her to call me, because i knew we both had more to say. she was kind of quiet on the phone, and i made nice and explaiend things from my side and she was cool by the end of it, or more cool (who knows).

all i ask is that i get treated with respect, as we all want. when they get personal, i get mad. then my boss tells me to chill the **** out. it works well.
 
KYSportsWriter said:
There's an assistant coach in my town that's pissed about a recruiting article I wrote last week. He said I made two of that team's players "feel small" with the comments I used from the head coach. I simply reported what the coach told me and that's that.

I go into the coaching office to interview the head coach and the AC starts berating me, saying things like "that was the worst ****ing article I've read by you. You're wearing (county school's) jock (or something to that effect) and it's a good thing you're leaving." (I'm leaving in two weeks for a new job, so...)

What I want to know is how you deal with pissed off coaches. What do you do to get back on their good side or do you just ignore the problem altogether?

Dude, if I may be so formal :), pissed-off coaches are your badge of honor in this business.

You are going to have pissy coaches no matter what you write. Some are going to get mad for the smallest of reasons, some are going to get angry for bigger reasons.

Some are going to get angry because you dared to point out that the starting quarterback lost his job because his performance was not up to snuff -- which the coach told you.

Others are going to get angry for even more bizarre reasons. One coach got pissed at one of my writers because he dared write a positive feature about how a player came back from an injury to lead the team to the playoffs the next season. That story somehow spotlighted a single player, which "went against the team concept" the coach was trying to promote.

The overriding thing is always to report the truth. The truth shall set you free. No matter what the bastards say, always, always, always report the TRUTH. Write the truth without bias and you can always look in the mirror and know that you did your best...
 
Had a coach today use 4 timeouts to help score just before the half... to go up 38-6. Wasn't pleased when I asked what he thought about running it up. And he really wasn't pleased when I mentioned a letter he wrote a couple papers over the offseason about some Thanksgiving changes. He felt his team was getting screwed. The team he blasted the most in that letter... today's opponent.

BTW, I have no problem with playing a first string in the first half, no matter what the score. Those kids deserve to get the majority of the snaps. But to use timeouts to do it is chicken****.
 
UncleHappyPants said:
KYSportsWriter said:
There's an assistant coach in my town that's pissed about a recruiting article I wrote last week. He said I made two of that team's players "feel small" with the comments I used from the head coach. I simply reported what the coach told me and that's that.

I go into the coaching office to interview the head coach and the AC starts berating me, saying things like "that was the worst ****ing article I've read by you. You're wearing (county school's) jock (or something to that effect) and it's a good thing you're leaving." (I'm leaving in two weeks for a new job, so...)

What I want to know is how you deal with pissed off coaches. What do you do to get back on their good side or do you just ignore the problem altogether?

Dude, if I may be so formal :), pissed-off coaches are your badge of honor in this business.

You are going to have pissy coaches no matter what you write. Some are going to get mad for the smallest of reasons, some are going to get angry for bigger reasons.

Some are going to get angry because you dared to point out that the starting quarterback lost his job because his performance was not up to snuff -- which the coach told you.

Others are going to get angry for even more bizarre reasons. One coach got pissed at one of my writers because he dared write a positive feature about how a player came back from an injury to lead the team to the playoffs the next season. That story somehow spotlighted a single player, which "went against the team concept" the coach was trying to promote.

The overriding thing is always to report the truth. The truth shall set you free. No matter what the bastards say, always, always, always report the TRUTH. Write the truth without bias and you can always look in the mirror and know that you did your best...

If they're a badge of honor, I've run out of room on my clothing to add another.
 
My only advice would be, don't continue the argument. It's one you'll never win. Their minds are already made up. Just smile and nod. Remember, they need you more than you need them.
 

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