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Sounds like Dad lost his priorities. The job seemingly got bigger than his family.
 
Andy Reid's family "in crisis", judge says.

Writing's on the wall. He's going to have to step down, if only temporarily. Say hello to Coach Morningwhig.

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/10944771.html

Garrett and Britt Reid were sentenced to jail today on charges stemming from January traffic incidents, and in a dramatic moment, the judge likened their home environment to a "drug emporium."

Their father is Eagles coach Andy Reid.

Judge Steven O'Neill questioned whether Reid's adult sons should live there, given their drug problems.

"There isn't any structure there that this court can depend upon. . . . This is a family in crisis," O'Neill said.

Garrett Reid was sentenced to two to 23 months, and authorities said that he had smuggled 89 pills into jail by secreting them in his rectum.

Britt Reid was sentenced to eight to 23 months, and four years stemming from a road-rage incident during which he flashed a gun.

Andy Reid did not comment after he left the courtroom.

Earlier in the day, Garrett Reid told court officials he had sold cocaine in the past, and had started abusing drugs when he was 18.

O'Neill said the pills, including Valium, were found in the jail this morning. Reid could face additional charges in connection with the pills.

After sentencing, Garrett Reid, 24, was returned to jail. His father and his mother, Tammy, were in the courtroom. Neither spoke.

At the sentencing hearing, Reid said he had struggled with drugs since high school. He also voiced despair.

"I'm at the point in my life where I have already made the decision that I don't want to die doing drugs."

"I don't want to be that kid who was the son of the head coach of the Eagles who was spoiled and on drugs and OD'ed and just faded into oblivion," he said in court.
 
Re: Andy Reid's family "in crisis", judge says.

Damn, Hondo beat me by a few seconds ..
 
Do we really need to ****ing DB both these threads? Especially when they were posted seconds apart? Give it a ****ing rest.
 
Had I not spent all that time verifying it wasn't a D_B, it wouldn't have been a D_B.
 
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Amazing what a bad season does to your popularity, though I don't necessarily disagree with the majority. Family's got to come first.

From Philly.com :

READER POLL
What should Andy Reid do to deal with his family turmoil?
Resign. (41.6%)
= 275

Take another leave of absence. (21.6%)
= 143

Keep coaching. (36.8%)
= 243

Total votes
= 661
 
Write-brained said:
At the sentencing hearing, Reid said he had struggled with drugs since high school. He also voiced despair.

"I'm at the point in my life where I have already made the decision that I don't want to die doing drugs."

"I don't want to be that kid who was the son of the head coach of the Eagles who was spoiled and on drugs and OD'ed and just faded into oblivion," he said in court.

Little late on counts A, B, C, D and E, kiddo.

hondo said:
Sounds like Dad lost his priorities. The job seemingly got bigger than his family.

There is a great book to be written about how NFL coaches napalm their family lives for the job.

It happens to everyone, even the decent folks like Dungy and, apparently, Reid (no idea if he's a good guy or not, he's always come off OK, but maybe that's because he's a roly-poly fat guy).
 
This is a terrible situation for Andy, Tammy, Garrett and Britt Reid. I hope they can get on the path of healing.

Football rivalries don't mean a ******* thing when a family is in crisis. Maybe it's time for those of us who live and breathe our jobs to take a step back. Otherwise a lot of us will be like the characters in "Cats In The Cradle."
 
Write-brained said:
Amazing what a bad season does to your popularity, though I don't necessarily disagree with the majority. Family's got to come first.

From Philly.com :

READER POLL
What should Andy Reid do to deal with his family turmoil?
Resign. (41.6%)
= 275

Take another leave of absence. (21.6%)
= 143

Keep coaching. (36.8%)
= 243

Total votes
= 661

If they were 8-0 those results would be far different.
 
How can any NFL football coach be a good parent? They work every day and often 12+ hours from July-early January. I guess there are ways to interact with your kids on some level, but surely not "enough" (whatever that is).
 
A tangent, but this is the thread for it: Can anyone explain to me why professional football coaches think it's necessary to work 20 hours a day, 7 days a week, 50 weeks a year? Is it really that hard? Harder than anything else? It's not like they're trying to map the human genome, or crack the Dead Sea Scrolls - and it doesn't seem to have noticeable results on the field except for a handful of teams. Is it simply a conceit of the game?
 
BYH said:
There is a great book to be written about how NFL coaches napalm their family lives for the job.

Not here, boy-o.

Sean Salisbury was on ESPN last night, and was emphatic that

a) The Fat Reid had pledged his life to his lord and savior, Jesus Christ; and

b) He knows for a fact that the Fat Reid put his family first before all else.
 
jgmacg said:
A tangent, but this is the thread for it: Can anyone explain to me why professional football coaches think it's necessary to work 20 hours a day, 7 days a week, 50 weeks a year? Is it really that hard? Harder than anything else? It's not like they're trying to map the human genome, or crack the Dead Sea Scrolls - and it doesn't seem to have noticeable results on the field except for a handful of teams. Is it simply a conceit of the game?

I asked an assistant coach this once.
He explained that he had 10 offensive linemen who played in a game.
"So I watch that film 10 times and grade every one of them."
"You can't just watch it once and have an idea of how your guys played?"

He looked at me like I was from another planet.
 
BYH said:
Write-brained said:
At the sentencing hearing, Reid said he had struggled with drugs since high school. He also voiced despair.

"I'm at the point in my life where I have already made the decision that I don't want to die doing drugs."

"I don't want to be that kid who was the son of the head coach of the Eagles who was spoiled and on drugs and OD'ed and just faded into oblivion," he said in court.

Little late on counts A, B, C, D and E, kiddo.

hondo said:
Sounds like Dad lost his priorities. The job seemingly got bigger than his family.

There is a great book to be written about how NFL coaches napalm their family lives for the job.

It happens to everyone, even the decent folks like Dungy and, apparently, Reid (no idea if he's a good guy or not, he's always come off OK, but maybe that's because he's a roly-poly fat guy).

I completely disagree. Having an NFL coach for a father doesn't make a family any more or less susceptible to turmoil. Are some coaches the only professionals in America working ridiculous hours and putting jobs first? We only hear these sad stories because coaches are public figures.

Plus, lumping Dungy in this discussion is unfair if you're somehow tying in his son's suicide as a product of him being a busy NFL coach (and that last part is somewhat inaccurate too, he has the job in a helluva lot better perspective than most). There was obviously a very deep mental illness that was unlikely to be helped one iota if Dungy had a different line of work.
 
playthrough said:
Being an NFL coach doesn't make the family of the coach any more or less susceptible to turmoil.
Yes. A lot of people seem to be jumping to the conclusion that the two sons got into trouble simply because Dad wasn't around. That might be true, but it might not be.

Of course, it doesn't help that Reid appears to have absolutely no personality in the first place and (correctly, unfortunately for us) won't talk about his family's problems.

That said, it seems to me as if he has to resign, if for no other reason than his sons dearly need all the help he can give. I don't know what he can do, but, to me, his priority should be his family, and his demanding job is not helping him address it.

One thing I'm really sick of hearing about is how a football team is like a "family." If it really is, something's wrong.
 
forever_town said:
This is a terrible situation for Andy, Tammy, Garrett and Britt Reid. I hope they can get on the path of healing.

Football rivalries don't mean a ******* thing when a family is in crisis. Maybe it's time for those of us who live and breathe our jobs to take a step back. Otherwise a lot of us will be like the characters in "Cats In The Cradle."
That's great advice. Except if your able to give it or listen to it, you don't need it.
 
hondo said:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3089753

Sounds like Dad lost his priorities. The job seemingly got bigger than his family.

How do you know this?
There are crappy parents who clock out at 5 every day and great parents who do 80-hour weeks.
 
playthrough said:
BYH said:
Write-brained said:
At the sentencing hearing, Reid said he had struggled with drugs since high school. He also voiced despair.

"I'm at the point in my life where I have already made the decision that I don't want to die doing drugs."

"I don't want to be that kid who was the son of the head coach of the Eagles who was spoiled and on drugs and OD'ed and just faded into oblivion," he said in court.

Little late on counts A, B, C, D and E, kiddo.

hondo said:
Sounds like Dad lost his priorities. The job seemingly got bigger than his family.

There is a great book to be written about how NFL coaches napalm their family lives for the job.

It happens to everyone, even the decent folks like Dungy and, apparently, Reid (no idea if he's a good guy or not, he's always come off OK, but maybe that's because he's a roly-poly fat guy).

I completely disagree. Having an NFL coach for a father doesn't make a family any more or less susceptible to turmoil. Are some coaches the only professionals in America working ridiculous hours and putting jobs first? We only hear these sad stories because coaches are public figures.

Plus, lumping Dungy in this discussion is unfair if you're somehow tying in his son's suicide as a product of him being a busy NFL coach (and that last part is somewhat inaccurate too, he has the job in a helluva lot better perspective than most). There was obviously a very deep mental illness that was unlikely to be helped one iota if Dungy had a different line of work.

Agreed. And this doesn't happen with the children of every NFL coach. Then again, not all of them are 20-hours-a-day, sleep-in-the-office psychos like Gruden, to pick out one example.

I have met Bill Cowher's two older daughters on a few occasions and both seem to be extremely well adjusted. Granted, it's only a very small amount of time I spent around them and maybe they're both nuts, but it sure doesn't seem that way. Never heard anything negative about them.

Then again, I also used to see Cowher out with them a lot in public (I lived in a neighboring town. Went to some of the same restaurants and such). When he quit, people dismissed the idea of wanting to watch his youngest daughter play high school basketball, but Cowher really did do that for his older ones.

Not saying that was any perfect family life. I've heard good and bad and plenty of rumors go around that town. But I think it is definitely possible to be a successful head coach without completely ****ing things up at home.
 
I feel bad for Andy and Tammy Reid. This kind of thing can and does happen to good parents with good intentions and values. Whether the Reids are, I can't say; but it's heartbreaking to see any parents have to go through their children's self-destruction. I hope and pray I'm never faced with a similar situation.

I don't see where quitting his job is necessarily the right move. What is he going to do--sit outside the jail every day? The normal guy can't just quit his job when this happens to his family; he needs to keep working to put the food on the table, and try to deal with the family crisis at the same time.

And yes, Reid has the kind of scratch, where unlike the regular joe, he could afford to quit his job and spend every waking hour attending to his boys. But, maybe Andy Reid needs football in his life right now.
 

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