Rockbottom
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One HAS to wonder if PBP SE Nick Moschella is at APSE.
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imjustagirl
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Well, it's a little less than 25 percent overall (300 of 1,350). So I don't know how that translates into the newsroom.
The short, easy answer? Too high of a percentage.
The short, easy answer? Too high of a percentage.
the 130 is, as far as I know, out of a approx. total of 270 who work on the second floor newsroom. Truly a sad day. I wonder if in sports, specifically if any of this mid-level managers will be forced to go. The copy desk is already a skeleton. I can think of a few reporters who have a lot of seniority and not a whole hell of a lot of bylines these days, too...
However, I do hope that anyone who gets hit by these finds a way to make the best of it and move ahead. It really does suck.
However, I do hope that anyone who gets hit by these finds a way to make the best of it and move ahead. It really does suck.
imjustagirl
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12345 said:
Ho. Lee. ****.
50 percent?
Damn. Damn. Damn.
2muchcoffeeman
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VJ said:
Yep, that's it. On both counts.
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2muchcoffeeman said:
Hellloooo? You're not going to remain the No. 1 option for your advertisers if you chop your newsroom by nearly 50 percent. Sheesh.
Mizzougrad96
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Palm Beach has always been the little paper that could and has done remarkably well in that market despite having very limited resources compared to the Sun-Sentinel and the Herald.
Maybe three papers can't survive in that market anymore. Maybe they need to regionalize their coverage and stop covering the major sports as extensively as they have.
This really sucks. Another paper I've always really liked.
Maybe three papers can't survive in that market anymore. Maybe they need to regionalize their coverage and stop covering the major sports as extensively as they have.
This really sucks. Another paper I've always really liked.
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This is what amazes me about media companies. Instead of finding ways to make the product better for the readers, they cut staffing to the bone and tell readers that the remaining people will work harder to bring them the best coverage....
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Yeah, you can bet that our remaining employees will be working 24-7 to make up for our lack of resources...
My subscription would be canceled immediately.
My subscription would be canceled immediately.
2muchcoffeeman
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Mizzougrad96 said:
Yeah, that's the ticket to keeping readers: less coverage of things they're interested in.
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2muchcoffeeman said:
I completely agree with you, but you would have to think those are the cuts they're going to make.
frozen tundra
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Pervading sentiment among corporate newspaper honcho idiots seems to be that readers clearly don't care about the product anyway -- they're not reading it anymore after all, right? -- so why put a good product out there? Let's just slap some bull**** eye candy on there and you're good to go.
The people who should be looking for new jobs are the decision makers who made **** poor decisions over the years and put the paper in this position in the first place. Yes the economy is bad -- we're all feeling it here in lovely South Florida -- but the Post leadership has done too little, too late and now their employees and readers are paying the price.
The people who should be looking for new jobs are the decision makers who made **** poor decisions over the years and put the paper in this position in the first place. Yes the economy is bad -- we're all feeling it here in lovely South Florida -- but the Post leadership has done too little, too late and now their employees and readers are paying the price.
Oh boy - to blame this mess entirely on the head honchos at the PBP is so ridiculous. I'm no apologist, especially at a time like this, and they do shoulder a good part of the blame.
But to be fair, let's look at the track record the sports department has as a whole when it comes to working with the Web. For years that dept has been content to shovel content over to the site with little or no regard about how it looks or if it has any kind of multimedia presentation element. Just look at how pleased they have been to essentially regurgitate special sections onto the web as nothing but text and photos.
As someone who works not too far away from that desk in the building, I'd say they need to get it together and quit running junk like that Hal Habib love letter about Paul Hamm with not so much as a photo online the other week.
Sorry to rant, but in this time of severe change, I worry that there are too many people in that department who refuse to do so or for some reason fear learning about the Web and would rather just plug their ears, run more agate and pretend like people still give a crap about Calder Cup results, insignificant amatuer golf events and the lot.
But to be fair, let's look at the track record the sports department has as a whole when it comes to working with the Web. For years that dept has been content to shovel content over to the site with little or no regard about how it looks or if it has any kind of multimedia presentation element. Just look at how pleased they have been to essentially regurgitate special sections onto the web as nothing but text and photos.
As someone who works not too far away from that desk in the building, I'd say they need to get it together and quit running junk like that Hal Habib love letter about Paul Hamm with not so much as a photo online the other week.
Sorry to rant, but in this time of severe change, I worry that there are too many people in that department who refuse to do so or for some reason fear learning about the Web and would rather just plug their ears, run more agate and pretend like people still give a crap about Calder Cup results, insignificant amatuer golf events and the lot.
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Dayton started the ball rolling several years ago through attrition, major buyouts and consolidation of four copy desks into one universal desk for four dailies.
They appear ahead of the curve.
They appear ahead of the curve.
frozen tundra
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12345, I'd agree. That's part of what I'm saying. I don't think it's just the staffers' fault that the Web has been ignored until fairly recently as the direction things are going. There certainly should have been more of an effort to improve multimedia efforts earlier on, but where does that direction come from? The top. And there didn't seem to be any effort to do that until it was too late.
Also, though, it wasn't a jab just at the Post. I think it's been a problem throughout the industry, generally speaking. It seems no one really knows what way to go, so they either don't do anything or they overreact.
As for the reference to Dayton: I believe that paper did go through many of the same cuts a while back and did so under the stewardship of Doug Franklin, now the publisher of the Post. Writing was probably on the wall back when he came on.
Also, though, it wasn't a jab just at the Post. I think it's been a problem throughout the industry, generally speaking. It seems no one really knows what way to go, so they either don't do anything or they overreact.
As for the reference to Dayton: I believe that paper did go through many of the same cuts a while back and did so under the stewardship of Doug Franklin, now the publisher of the Post. Writing was probably on the wall back when he came on.
