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ESPN will have to remove its head from David Stern's @$$ and cover the mayhem in Vegas, which was the real story all along.
 
Yeah, and I'm sure they will, right after their daily updates of Bonds, Nash's injury, NASCAR, Tiger, Bernie Williams and Terrell Owens. Get Ed Werder on a plane, NOW!!!
 
Wasn't there a thread on this already?

Oh, wait...it's Whitlock. He just has to have his own thread.
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I was confused by this thread title, as Adam Jones' nickname is Pacman, one word, no capital M.

I figured J-Dub had some cartoon violence for us.
 
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Jason has Pacman fever. It's driving him crazy.

I'm now going to kill myself for making that pun.

Jason is right though. This story does seem to be underplayed by ESPN and others.
 
Ellis Redding said:
Yeah, and I'm sure they will, right after their daily updates of Bonds, Nash's injury, NASCAR, Tiger, Bernie Williams and Terrell Owens. Get Ed Werder on a plane, NOW!!!

Or the "chilly" relationship between A-Job and Jeter.
 
Here's a serious question I have:

If there is "lawlessness" in New Orleans next year, how many news outlets will be uncomfortable reporting that in a city that will be trumpeting its comeback?

Not trying to excuse anything, but to a certain degree, how things are reported are based off the perception of the city itself. In Detroit during the Super Bowl, people were waiting for that signature incident to happen -- and it never did. My point is that Vegas is know for being out of control. So you could argue that people come there with an expectation they are going to see wild, uncontrollable behavior. If a triple shooting occurred in Detroit during XL, it would have been on CNN -- even though it's a major city where, yes, crime does occur.

Fights/shooting always occur at Vegas strip clubs, whether Pacman Jones is there or not. I guess I'm wondering if the lack of attention being paid to what happened in Vegas has more to do with the fact that it's expectated behavior as opposed to journalists not wanting to be involved.

Just a thought.
 
Jemele Hill said:
Fights/shooting always occur at Vegas strip clubs, whether Pacman Jones is there or not. I guess I'm wondering if the lack of attention being paid to what happened in Vegas has more to do with the fact that it's expectated behavior as opposed to journalists not wanting to be involved.

Tupac shot down on or near the strip after a Tyson fight comes to my mind. I might lean more toward expected behavior as opposed to looking the other way. You had to know there would be trouble in Vegas. Who, when and where was yet to be determined.
 
Jemele Hill said:
Here's a serious question I have:

If there is "lawlessness" in New Orleans next year, how many news outlets will be uncomfortable reporting that in a city that will be trumpeting its comeback?

Not trying to excuse anything, but to a certain degree, how things are reported are based off the perception of the city itself. In Detroit during the Super Bowl, people were waiting for that signature incident to happen -- and it never did. My point is that Vegas is know for being out of control. So you could argue that people come there with an expectation they are going to see wild, uncontrollable behavior. If a triple shooting occurred in Detroit during XL, it would have been on CNN -- even though it's a major city where, yes, crime does occur.

Fights/shooting always occur at Vegas strip clubs, whether Pacman Jones is there or not. I guess I'm wondering if the lack of attention being paid to what happened in Vegas has more to do with the fact that it's expectated behavior as opposed to journalists not wanting to be involved.

Just a thought.

Hasn't one of the prevailing story lines surrounding post-Katrina recovery been the insanely high crime rate? Heck, wasn't some of this year's Mardi Gras coverage talking about how things were violent and Mardi Gras was a more "hip-hop" affair with a "darker" tone, if you know what I mean?
 
Jemele Hill said:
Fights/shooting always occur at Vegas strip clubs, whether Pacman Jones is there or not.

Whoa, easy with the generalizations. I have been to several Vegas strip clubs over the years. I have never seen a fight, let alone a shooting.

Hell, I've never even felt unsafe at one and I have developed a pretty good "**** is getting ready to happen" radar over the years.
 
Jemele Hill said:
Fights/shooting always occur at Vegas strip clubs, whether Pacman Jones is there or not.

Jemele... I disagree.

If you want the fat, old white guys to keep showing up with the REAL money, none of that **** is happening.

I don't think shootings are common in strip clubs at all.
 
Sorry, I didn't mean to generalize. But I suppose I say some of this without knowing if the Pacman incident was at a higher or lower end strip club. But it's not like it's surprising/uncommon that there was a shooting incident at a Vegas strip club.

I enjoyed Jason's AOL column quite a bit, but I'm not sure who's responsibility it is to clean things up. Or if it's fair to blame the NBA when they can't exactly control who frequents their events. Rappers always have/always will be drawn to the All-Star game as long as ballers want to be rappers and the reverse. But what are you gonna do? Ban rappers?

I personally blame the "lawlessness," if you will, on the rep of the city, not the NBA. If Vegas did not have the rep for letting things go unchecked -- i.e., what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas -- I am sure it would have drawn a different crowd. Or at least, things would haven't been as bad. But in Vegas, you can drink FOR FREE, 24 hours a day. Mix that factoid in with the large crowds expected for this game and you were bound to have trouble.

I'm torn because I balance what Jason said with the fact there is this perception that black people can't get together in large groups without some sort of incident. But I also realize that's a stereotype that is sometimes earned, but one also looked for. Having been to Freaknik and Cancun, there isn't much difference. I'm sure just as many rapes and debauchery happened at both places, but Freaknik always was castigated.
 
I don't think you can blame the city any more than you can blame the skin color of the people involved in the incidents. Bad people of any skin tone will get into trouble whether they're in Vegas or Salt Lake City.
 
The lack of coverage from ESPN is definitely concerning. I think Jemele's got a pretty good point. Vegas has been out of control before. The difference, in my view, is strictly the type of coverage that was available, on DeadSpin, AOL, and and the other sites. And then you've got several high-profile writers discussing the scene, without comparable coverage in other outlets. That, as much as anything else could, is going to raise antennae. It also seemed worth noting, and I'd be curious to hear Jason's thoughts on this, why his AOL piece was so much more insightful than the article printed in the Star.
 
Jemele

NBA All-Star Weekend has been on the path to Freaknik status for several years, really ever since Atlanta shut down Freaknik...... There's a major difference from looking to go get drunk and party to looking to go get drunk while also looking for trouble (violence, looting), the things that shut down Freaknik, the things that have been happening at All-Star Weekends.

Vegas was the Perfect Storm. But the storm was brewing in Atlanta, Houston and all the stops in between for the last six or seven years. No one wrote about it. Everybody ignored it. You can't put this on Vegas. It's a weak excuse. Unless you believe Atlanta created the problems that ruined Freaknik.

New Orleans will be a war zone.
 

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