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I mentioned this in the anthrax thread on the Sports/News board, but this might be a better place for a discussion on the responsibility of ABC News in this mess. The question is, if government sources lied to ABC about a purported link between Iraq and the anthrax attacks, should ABC out the sources?

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/01/anthrax/index.html
 
Boomer7 said:
I mentioned this in the anthrax thread on the Sports/News board, but this might be a better place for a discussion on the responsibility of ABC News in this mess. The question is, if government sources lied to ABC about a purported link between Iraq and the anthrax attacks, should ABC out the sources?

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/01/anthrax/index.html

I think ABC should go back and do a story about why government sources wanted to link anthrax to Iraq and name everyone it can.

It could be that some schlub thought he was passing good info because that's what his bosses wanted him to do.
 
If a source lies to you, all bets are off. The idea behind an anonymous source is that you will go to the grave protecting him or her because he or she gave you honest information and put themselves at risk to get the story out. If they are lying to you or using you for disinformation, all bets are off, and furthermore, as the reporter who was lied to, it is perfectly appropriate to expose the person for what they did. The only caveat to all of that is make sure you know for certain you were lied to and used and double check and confirm everything before you give up a source out of the sense of "spite" I am advocating.
 
Absolutely. They screwed up your arrangement, so they deserve no protection. Oh, and like Ace's idea of doing a story on their motivation, too.
 
JakeandElwood said:
Absolutely. They screwed up your arrangement, so they deserve no protection. Oh, and like Ace's idea of doing a story on their motivation, too.
That's just it. It's an arrangement.

I think a good analogy would be a prosecutor cutting a deal with a witness to either drop or lower charges for testimony. If the testimony proves to not be the truth, the deal for leniency goes away.

If a source proves to be a liar, the deal for anonymity goes away.
 
old_tony said:
JakeandElwood said:
Absolutely. They screwed up your arrangement, so they deserve no protection. Oh, and like Ace's idea of doing a story on their motivation, too.
That's just it. It's an arrangement.

I think a good analogy would be a prosecutor cutting a deal with a witness to either drop or lower charges for testimony. If the testimony proves to not be the truth, the deal for leniency goes away.

If a source proves to be a liar, the deal for anonymity goes away.

Sounds like a good analogy to me, too.
 
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I frankly don't know why we don't see more of this in the news. Of course, you out a source, usually a highly-placed administration official, and you no longer will get these "tips."
I still want to know who was pushing the Jessica Lynch story.
 
The Big Ragu said:
If a source lies to you, all bets are off. The idea behind an anonymous source is that you will go to the grave protecting him or her because he or she gave you honest information and put themselves at risk to get the story out. If they are lying to you or using you for disinformation, all bets are off, and furthermore, as the reporter who was lied to, it is perfectly appropriate to expose the person for what they did. The only caveat to all of that is make sure you know for certain you were lied to and used and double check and confirm everything before you give up a source out of the sense of "spite" I am advocating.

Bingo, precisely.

As long as the info is good -- or the source had good reason to believe it himself -- then you go to the grave with it.

As soon as you KNOW they were just using you to float trial balloons -- hang 'em from the highest tree.

This argument comes up here from time to time. Several times in the past, people have gotten extremely hot about this, claiming true journalists never ever ever ever ever ever give up a source, NO MATTER WHAT, and anybody who does (regardless of the circumstances) is an unethical SOB who should be drummed out of the profession.
 

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