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HanSenSE

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And I chose, on this day, to cover a rivalry game in softball that was mercy-ruled:

http://www.recordersports.com/articles/memorable-4357-granite-thad.html

But for those just wanting the money shot:

Zeke Narvarrete then came up with the bases loaded and hit a fly ball that
went about 10 feet foul down the first base line. But the Sierra Pacific
first baseman threw his glove at the ball. A long standing rule in baseball
prohibits players from throwing their glove at the ball. After the umpires
met to discuss what happened, they correctly award Navarrete a three-run
triple, giving Granite a 6-2 lead. "The first one I've ever seen," said
Reece about the rule coming into play.
 
Wow. An obscure rule for sure.

Last night, I covered one of our three teams in the first round of the playoffs. Their three pitchers had 10 walks, hit two batters and the defense added six errors behind them. This team, in 29 games, has 133 walks and 97 errors. Needless to say, they lost 10-0.
 
HanSenSE said:
And I chose, on this day, to cover a rivalry game in softball that was mercy-ruled:

http://www.recordersports.com/articles/memorable-4357-granite-thad.html

But for those just wanting the money shot:

Zeke Narvarrete then came up with the bases loaded and hit a fly ball that
went about 10 feet foul down the first base line. But the Sierra Pacific
first baseman threw his glove at the ball. A long standing rule in baseball
prohibits players from throwing their glove at the ball. After the umpires
met to discuss what happened, they correctly award Navarrete a three-run
triple, giving Granite a 6-2 lead. "The first one I've ever seen," said
Reece about the rule coming into play.

BW, didn't that happen in the bigs in the last few decades?
 
93Devil said:
HanSenSE said:
And I chose, on this day, to cover a rivalry game in softball that was mercy-ruled:

http://www.recordersports.com/articles/memorable-4357-granite-thad.html

But for those just wanting the money shot:

Zeke Narvarrete then came up with the bases loaded and hit a fly ball that
went about 10 feet foul down the first base line. But the Sierra Pacific
first baseman threw his glove at the ball. A long standing rule in baseball
prohibits players from throwing their glove at the ball. After the umpires
met to discuss what happened, they correctly award Navarrete a three-run
triple, giving Granite a 6-2 lead. "The first one I've ever seen," said
Reece about the rule coming into play.

BW, didn't that happen in the bigs in the last few decades?

Yes. On May 28, 2005.

Dodgers reliever Duaner Sanchez threw his glove at a ground ball hit by D'backs center fielder Luis Terrero. Automatic triple awarded.

Here's the box:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ARI/ARI200505280.shtml

Here's the scoring notation:

Triple to P/Interference called (Ground Ball)

LA Times story:

http://articles.latimes.com/2005/may/29/sports/sp-dodgers29
 
I thought the interference rule came into play only when the ball was hit by the glove.
 
I'm pretty sure that's correct.

By the way, a piece of particularly awful writing from that LAT story:

Compared to those who followed him on the mound, Thompson appeared as calm as a corpse. And no wonder. Cartilage from a cadaver was placed in his left knee during a surgical procedure that saved his career two years ago.
 
Chef2 said:
I thought the interference rule came into play only when the ball was hit by the glove.

Yeah, I should have been more clear. Sanchez DID hit the ball with the glove.
 
Steak Snabler said:
Chef2 said:
I thought the interference rule came into play only when the ball was hit by the glove.

Yeah, I should have been more clear. Sanchez DID hit the ball with the glove.

ah ha.
 
I think it's a home run if the umpire determines it would have gone over the fence. Not sure that's ever happened, though that would definitely be better than Rick Camp's home run [/crossthread]
 
HanSenSE said:
And I chose, on this day, to cover a rivalry game in softball that was mercy-ruled:

http://www.recordersports.com/articles/memorable-4357-granite-thad.html

But for those just wanting the money shot:

Zeke Narvarrete then came up with the bases loaded and hit a fly ball that
went about 10 feet foul down the first base line. But the Sierra Pacific
first baseman threw his glove at the ball. A long standing rule in baseball
prohibits players from throwing their glove at the ball. After the umpires
met to discuss what happened, they correctly award Navarrete a three-run
triple, giving Granite a 6-2 lead. "The first one I've ever seen," said
Reece about the rule coming into play.
He'll remember the next time.
 
Dodgers also had a game where the opposing catcher used his mask to scoop up a loose ball. Lasorda caught it and that's also illegal, another obscure rule. I'm not sure but I think it's a two-base advancement or something like that.
 
I was actually just reading a 1972 Baseball Digest where, in the "So You Think You Know Baseball?" column, they had this rule. If the fielder throws his glove at the ball it is three bases for any baserunners.

By HARRY SIMMONS

If you have to blow off steam in baseball, don't throw things. Here is the hypothetical case of a player who did, causing quite a ruckus.
Say it's the Detroit Tigers and the California Angels in the last half of the fifth in a close game at Tiger Stadium. Al Kaline opens with a sharp double to left center. Norm Cash gets nicked by an inside pitch and takes his base. Willie Horton then lifts an infield pop. As the Angels' first baseman runs toward it, the umpire calls, "Infield fly, if fair!"
The Angels' first baseman gets under the ball in fair territory, but it merely touches his glove, then bounces and rolls into foul ground. In disgust, the first baseman flings his mitt at the ball, hitting it and stopping the roll.
Kaline and Cash halt at second and third respectively, while Horton legs it to first base. But you, as umpire, can't let them stay there.What would you do?

Answer:
Call Horton out, and send Kaline and Cash around to score. Two rules, in quick succession, govern this play:
Horton is automatically out when the umpire calls an infield fly and the ball is touched in fair territory. (See Section 6.05e of the Official Baseball Rules: "A batter is out when an Infield Fly is declared.")
When the first baseman's thrown mitt touched the batted ball, it entitled both Kaline and Cash to three bases. (See Section 7.05c: "Each runner, including the batter-runner, may, without liability of being put out, advance three bases, if a fielder deliberately throws his glove at and touches a fair ball.") The rule continues, "The ball is in play and the batter may advance to home base at his peril," but this must be disregarded in the case of an Infield Fly.

From the May 1972 Baseball Digest
 
If the ball was foul, then this award was wrong. It's only a fair batted ball that gets the award of three bases.

Also, a batted ball prevented from going over the fence for a home run by a detached glove, then it's still a home run.
 
bydesign77 said:
If the ball was foul, then this award was wrong. It's only a fair batted ball that gets the award of three bases.

Also, a batted ball prevented from going over the fence for a home run by a detached glove, then it's still a home run.
I was thinking the same thing. It's like a foul ball that dribbles toward a dugout...a bench player stops it with a bat...just a foul ball. I think the ball has to be hit between the lines to make any of these rules come into play.
 
7.05(a) and 7.05 (b) in OBR ... I don't have my NFHS rule book with me, but i think it's Rule 5 somewhere... similar awards to OBR. Detached equipment in foul territory is nothing.
 
BenPoquette said:
bydesign77 said:
If the ball was foul, then this award was wrong. It's only a fair batted ball that gets the award of three bases.

Also, a batted ball prevented from going over the fence for a home run by a detached glove, then it's still a home run.
I was thinking the same thing. It's like a foul ball that dribbles toward a dugout...a bench player stops it with a bat...just a foul ball. I think the ball has to be hit between the lines to make any of these rules come into play.

That's correct.

And don't even get me started on base path violations.
 
I thought it was three bases for attempting to throw the glove at the ball.
 

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