OK......baseball rules experts.....

[spnited]

Rule 7.08:
A runner is out when:

(g) He attempts to score on a play in which the batter interferes with the play at home base before two are out. With two out, the interference puts the batter out and no score counts;

Not exactly Chef's situation but close enough, I think to considering on-deck batter as a batter.

And:
7.09 It is interference by a batter or a runner when—

(c) Before two are out and a runner on third base, the batter hinders a fielder in making a play at home base; the runner is out;


Again, both rules refer to the batter but I'd say Chef made a good call in considering the jerk in the on-deck circle to have interfered with the play.

 

[slappy4428]

Called a buddy who has umpired more high school state title games here in Indiana than anyone else I know of.

His response: "If the kid coming from third's already touched home by the time the kid starts ****ing around with the ball, then you let it stand and the run counts. If he touches the ball before the kid gets home, you send the runners back.

"You can't give a team an advantage for having a dumbass on their roster."

Also: No outs called on the play.

If the runner doesn't try to come home, you send him back. If he does try, he's out on the interference call. If he touches the plate before nimrod touches the ball, it's a dead ball. I would think.. .

 

[Chef]

I texted my friend, the MLB umpire, and I was right.

As for king's infield-fly.......the umpires should call the infield fly, but when they're yelling "INFIELD FLY" they should yell also "IF IT'S FAIR.....IF IT'S FAIR"

If it's foul.......the infield fly is no longer in effect.

 

[Chef]

Anyone else see what the first base ump did in the TOR-KC game the other night?

Line-drive down the first base line, hits right on the line.....

Originally signals foul....then changes his mind to fair.

He did a great job of selling it........Cito Gaston however was quite displeased.

To put it mildly, he blew a damn gasket.

 

[forever_town]

As for king's infield-fly.......the umpires should call the infield fly, but when they're yelling "INFIELD FLY" they should yell also "IF IT'S FAIR.....IF IT'S FAIR"

If it's foul.......the infield fly is no longer in effect.

Yeah, but that usually only comes into play if the weather conditions are such that you're not sure if the ball is going to land fair or foul.

I heard that exact example during my umpiring training workshops last year from the grizzled veteran umpire who still attended even though he's probably memorized the book. The only time I wasn't sure what a pop fly was going to do in an infield fly situation, I called out, "infield fly, batter out if fair." When the ball landed foul, I just called it a foul ball.

 

[RickStain]

Scoring question: who is credited with a run scored if a courtesy runner scores?

 

[HandsomeHarley]

I have umpired for 18 years, and have never in my life seen this.

High School Baseball Game

I'm behind the plate.

Runners at 2nd and 3rd; 1 out.

Backstop is a mere 4 steps behind me.....

Pitch gets by the catcher, rolls into the on-deck circle for batting team, in which the on-deck batter (whose head is firmly entrenched in his ass) starts ****ing around with the ball......i.e. kicked it with his foot and tapped it with his bat..........

What's the call?

Give me your thoughts, and in a few minutes, I'll tell you what I called.

EDIT: Runner at 3rd was coming home, and runner at 2nd was going to 3rd.

I would have called dead-ball interference and sent the runners back to their bases.

Had I thought a defensive player could have made a play, I would have called the runner on third out and sent the runner back to second.

 

[HandsomeHarley]

I texted my friend, the MLB umpire, and I was right.

As for king's infield-fly.......the umpires should call the infield fly, but when they're yelling "INFIELD FLY" they should yell also "IF IT'S FAIR.....IF IT'S FAIR"

If it's foul.......the infield fly is no longer in effect.

Said friend was behind the plate when I saw the Royals play last Saturday at the K. Didn't get a chance to talk to him.