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Who will win the NL Cy Young this year?

  • Jake Peavy (SDP)

    Votes: 12 80.0%
  • Brad Penny (LAD)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Brandon Webb (ARI)

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • John Smoltz (ATL)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Roy Oswalt (HOU)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Tim Hudson (ATL)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Chris Young (SDP)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Aaron Harang (CIN)

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Takashi Saito (LAD)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    15

buckweaver

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For me, it's Peavy's to lose but Penny is running strong. September performances will decide it.
 
Right now, it's Peavy -- easily. When a dude is leading the league in wins (16), ERA (2.43) and strikeouts (210), it's a no-brainer.
 
mike311gd said:
Right now, it's Peavy -- easily. When a dude is leading the league in wins (16), ERA (2.43) and strikeouts (210), it's a no-brainer.

Can't disagree with a Triple Crown. Not many guys have done it.
 
buckweaver said:
mike311gd said:
Right now, it's Peavy -- easily. When a dude is leading the league in wins (16), ERA (2.43) and strikeouts (210), it's a no-brainer.

Can't disagree with a Triple Crown. Not many guys have done it.

Just 18 since 1900 and five since 1985. I think Clemens immediately. While he was with the Blue Jays, he was disgusting.
 
mike311gd said:
buckweaver said:
mike311gd said:
Right now, it's Peavy -- easily. When a dude is leading the league in wins (16), ERA (2.43) and strikeouts (210), it's a no-brainer.

Can't disagree with a Triple Crown. Not many guys have done it.

Just 18 since 1900 and five since 1985. I think Clemens immediately. While he was with the Blue Jays, he was disgusting.

And only the Unit (in 2002) has done it in the NL since Gooden, too. Before that, you're going back to Carlton in '72, then Koufax.

Santana did it in the AL last year, Pedro in '99, the two Clemens years in Toronto, then back to Prince Hal in 1945.

Amazing how rare that feat is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_crown_(baseball)#Pitching_Triple_Crown_winners
 
Peavy is an easy choice at the moment. Hopefully the Padres won't screw around with moving up any more starts to short rest. He has always been horrible doing that and predictably has his worst start of the year.
 
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mike311gd said:
I like how much debate we've got going in this one. Thanks a lot, Jake.


When a guy leads the league in wins, ERA and strikeouts, has a 1.06 WHIP and a .207 BAA on a playoff-bound team ... what is there to debate?
 
buckweaver said:
mike311gd said:
Right now, it's Peavy -- easily. When a dude is leading the league in wins (16), ERA (2.43) and strikeouts (210), it's a no-brainer.

Can't disagree with a Triple Crown. Not many guys have done it.

But what's his WHIP!?
 
Songbird said:
buckweaver said:
mike311gd said:
Right now, it's Peavy -- easily. When a dude is leading the league in wins (16), ERA (2.43) and strikeouts (210), it's a no-brainer.

Can't disagree with a Triple Crown. Not many guys have done it.

But what's his WHIP!?

It's 1.06, second to Young's 1.05. I assume you were being facetious, but the day the Cy Young is decided by WHIP is the day I get laid.

It's not likely to happen.
 
You'd be hitting that "home run" before me, no doubt, my friend.

But WHIP is a cool stat nonetheless.
 
Songbird said:
You'd be hitting that "home run" before me, no doubt, my friend.

But WHIP is a cool stat nonetheless.

It's nice to know. I like WHIP. It's a great way to show how effective a pitcher is. For pitching, maybe more than hitting, I think the big three stats can pretty much tell you most of what you need to know. Strikeout to walk ratio is great, so is k/9, but no matter how "meaningless" you think wins are as a whole, they're essential for a Cy Young candidate. Strikeouts and ERA, to me, are solid measuring tools.
 

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