ondeadline
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<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/14/business/media/14cnd-times.html">That translates to 100 positions. Will the crappy news ever stop?</a>
Frank_Ridgeway said:But in symbolic terms, this is the apocalypse.
ondeadline said:<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/14/business/media/14cnd-times.html">That translates to 100 positions. Will the crappy news ever stop?</a>
Shares in The New York Times Company rose almost 5 percent Thursday after the newsroom staff reductions were reported, closing at $18.84, up 86 cents.
deskslave said:ondeadline said:<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/14/business/media/14cnd-times.html">That translates to 100 positions. Will the crappy news ever stop?</a>
Sure. There was good news just hours later.
Shares in The New York Times Company rose almost 5 percent Thursday after the newsroom staff reductions were reported, closing at $18.84, up 86 cents.
Good to know that in these turbulent times, it's still possible to make money off the suffering of others.
OnTheRiver said:If you want to think the "apocalypse" has shown up in the form of a 7 percent reduction at the New York Times, so be it.
For a lot of us, the "apocalypse" came a long time ago.
OnTheRiver said:A lot of days, I feel like a pitcher who's standing on the mound in some random late-September game. I've already thrown way too many innings this season, but the manager's not coming to get me because there's no arms left in the bullpen.
goalmouth said:The notion of allocating bonus money to save jobs is beyond a red herring, and despicable.
Maybe Sulzberger is fixing up the shanty for a sale.
Some Guy said:However, a bloated newsroom at a publicly traded company slashing bodies is hardly shocking.
Frank_Ridgeway said:Some Guy said:However, a bloated newsroom at a publicly traded company slashing bodies is hardly shocking.
Bloated? How do you know that? They do cover more of the nation and the world than any other newspaper. The largest newsroom on my resume had a little more than 500, yet people worked harder there than they did on papers one-third that size.
You folks baffle me. The NYT has done the things you'd want your own paper to do -- cover everything, usually hire veteran journalists for top pay, remain almost immune to idiotic gimmicks -- and yet you want to take shots at it. Is it jealousy or politics or what?
Frank_Ridgeway said:OnTheRiver said:If you want to think the "apocalypse" has shown up in the form of a 7 percent reduction at the New York Times, so be it.
For a lot of us, the "apocalypse" came a long time ago.
I was on a paper that lost nearly a third of its staff within about a year. But if you don't believe the NYT holds more symbolic significance than any other paper, I'm not sure what to say. They have by far the largest news staff, they do by far the most ambitious striving and they responded to the Jayson Blair scandal by ADDING bodies in order to better ensure it wouldn't happen again. They've been a rare shining beacon for the argument that spending money on the product is a good business decision.
fishwrapper said:Frank_Ridgeway said:OnTheRiver said:If you want to think the "apocalypse" has shown up in the form of a 7 percent reduction at the New York Times, so be it.
For a lot of us, the "apocalypse" came a long time ago.
I was on a paper that lost nearly a third of its staff within about a year. But if you don't believe the NYT holds more symbolic significance than any other paper, I'm not sure what to say. They have by far the largest news staff, they do by far the most ambitious striving and they responded to the Jayson Blair scandal by ADDING bodies in order to better ensure it wouldn't happen again. They've been a rare shining beacon for the argument that spending money on the product is a good business decision.
Their newsroom isn't bloated. Not even close. They do cover everything. An incredible magazine staff. Book review staff. They support an entire news service. Making that statement is unlearned or uninformed.
Some Guy said:So you are shocked, in this day and age, that a publicly traded newsroom staffed 400 people larger than any other paper in America would carve staff? Really?
Frank_Ridgeway said:OnTheRiver said:If you want to think the "apocalypse" has shown up in the form of a 7 percent reduction at the New York Times, so be it.
For a lot of us, the "apocalypse" came a long time ago.
I was on a paper that lost nearly a third of its staff within about a year. But if you don't believe the NYT holds more symbolic significance than any other paper, I'm not sure what to say. They have by far the largest news staff, they do by far the most ambitious striving and they responded to the Jayson Blair scandal by ADDING bodies in order to better ensure it wouldn't happen again. They've been a rare shining beacon for the argument that spending money on the product is a good business decision.