More cheaters exposed ... Matt Williams?

[bigpern23]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3096834

I was surprised to see Matt Williams linked to using HGH. Guess I shouldn't be surprised by anyone at this point, but that was my initial reaction.

I have to admit, I'm curious who will be named in the Mitchell Report, but somehow, I doubt there will be any real bombshells. I don't think we're going to see a Pujols or A-Rod caliber player in there.

 

[Chi City 81]

I wasn't really surprised. Guy went from a decent third baseman with little contact and some pop to a .600 slugger. Coincidentally, his batting average jumped 70 points and his slugging almost 200 in 1993, Bonds' first year in SF.

 

[Mayfly]

Ken Caminiti, Matt Williams, Jose Canseco. I think we need to take a look at all past MVPs.

 

[bigpern23]

I wasn't really surprised. Guy went from a decent third baseman with little contact and some pop to a .600 slugger. Coincidentally, his batting average jumped 70 points and his slugging almost 200 in 1993, Bonds' first year in SF.

I'd say that probably had more to do with Bonds hitting behind him than any PEDs (if what we've read about Bonds' usage is to be believed; that it started after the 1998 season).

He also hit 30+ homers in consecutive years before Bonds arrived, so I don't know if you can say he had "some pop." But yes, he did have a jump in slugging percentage for about four years (1993-96, .561, .607, .647, .510).

I think I was just surprised because he's kind of out of sight out of mind. I think of him as more of an early '90s guy, before all this crap really got going (as far as we know). I never think of his career much beyond his SF days.

 

[Norman Stansfield]

At least he was married to that hot chick from Blame It On Rio.

 

[jakewriter82]

At least he was married to that hot chick from Blame It On Rio.

Demi Moore?

 

[Pancamo]

At least he was married to that hot chick from Blame It On Rio.

Michelle Johnson

At least he was married to that hot chick from Blame It On Rio.

Demi Moore?

Michelle Johnson

 

[spnited]

At least he was married to that hot chick from Blame It On Rio.

Michelle Johnson

 

[spnited]

Must be an echo in here

 

[micropolitan guy]

In that movie, Michelle Johnson is worth two mentions. Her beach scenes were outrageous.

 

[Lester Bangs]

In that movie, Michelle Johnson is worth two mentions. Her beach scenes were outrageous.

Yes, some of the more underrated "acting" of the 1980s. Just tremendous.

And, to me, as natural as Ms. Johnson seemed in that film, Williams' spike and sudden decline seemed to mark him as a prime candidate for PED outing.

 

[Herbert Anchovy]

What a bad movie.

 

[Chi City 81]

In that movie, Michelle Johnson is worth two mentions. Her beach scenes were outrageous.

NSFW!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[indiansnetwork]

Williams said he only used it in 2002 but we all know we can't trust any MLB players on PED's.

 

[Piotr Rasputin]

I wasn't really surprised. Guy went from a decent third baseman with little contact and some pop to a .600 slugger. Coincidentally, his batting average jumped 70 points and his slugging almost 200 in 1993, Bonds' first year in SF.

I'd say that probably had more to do with Bonds hitting behind him than any PEDs (if what we've read about Bonds' usage is to be believed; that it started after the 1998 season).

He also hit 30+ homers in consecutive years before Bonds arrived, so I don't know if you can say he had "some pop." But yes, he did have a jump in slugging percentage for about four years (1993-96, .561, .607, .647, .510).

I think I was just surprised because he's kind of out of sight out of mind. I think of him as more of an early '90s guy, before all this crap really got going (as far as we know). I never think of his career much beyond his SF days.

Far be it from me to introduce facts to support any Giant, but:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/w/willima04.shtml

In his first full season, Williams went 33 and 122 in 1990, then 34 and 98 the following year. He had a mediocre season in 1992, but that whole Giants lineup caught fire in 1993. I think even Kirt Manwaring flirted with .300 for much of the year. And it wasn't because of Bonds and roids since all reports are that if Barry did the roids, he started in the late 1990s. No, Bonds just lifted that whole lineup that season. They raked like madmen.

Like every other slugger, Williams' numbers in 1994 were spiked in a year that prompted plenty of "juiced ball" talk.

There is no smoking gun there, though his numbers for the 1999 Diamondbacks (35 homers, 142 RBI at the age of 34) give one pause.

 

[poindexter]

Far be it from me to introduce facts to support any Giant, but:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/w/willima04.shtml

In his first full season, Williams went 33 and 122 in 1990, then 34 and 98 the following year. He had a mediocre season in 1992, but that whole Giants lineup caught fire in 1993. I think even Kirt Manwaring flirted with .300 for much of the year. And it wasn't because of Bonds and roids since all reports are that if Barry did the roids, he started in the late 1990s. No, Bonds just lifted that whole lineup that season. They raked like madmen.

Like every other slugger, Williams' numbers in 1994 were spiked in a year that prompted plenty of "juiced ball" talk.

There is no smoking gun there, though his numbers for the 1999 Diamondbacks (35 homers, 142 RBI at the age of 34) give one pause.

Ismael Valdes is named in the story as well, for crying out loud. We are way past the point of looking at spikes in stats to help determine if players are using PEDs. They pretty much all are. JMO.

 

[User 1019]

In that movie, Michelle Johnson is worth two mentions. Her beach scenes were outrageous.

NSFW!!!!!!!!!!!!

I call those Bisquick titties.

 

[bigpern23]

In that movie, Michelle Johnson is worth two mentions. Her beach scenes were outrageous.

NSFW!!!!!!!!!!!!

I call those Bisquick titties.

Careful with links like those ... she was only 17 when they filmed that movie.

 

[Chi City 81]

In that movie, Michelle Johnson is worth two mentions. Her beach scenes were outrageous.

NSFW!!!!!!!!!!!!

I call those Bisquick titties.

Careful with links like those ... she was only 17 when they filmed that movie.

So was Thora Birch in American Beauty.

 

[mike311gd]

Sadly, Matt Williams being linked to performance-enhancing drugs doesn't surprise me. Anyone from the late 1980s to mid-1990s being linked in no shocker to me -- no matter when they supposedly did them.