Minnesota State-Mankato football coach arrested in child porn case

[Stitch]

MSU-Mankato head coach was arrested today on suspicion of producing child porn. He's been on leave since Friday and has been head coach for five years.

http://www.startribune.com/local/166946086.html

Time to punch back.

 

[Bubbler]

Used to cover him at a previous stop. I did a double-take when I saw the name and had to check the bio to make sure it was the same guy.

Creepy.

 

[PCLoadLetter]

Producing?

Egads.

 

[Liut]

Used to cover him at a previous stop. I did a double-take when I saw the name and had to check the bio to make sure it was the same guy.

Creepy.

You probably covered him more than I have, but I'm familiar enough with him in recent years to identify with what you stated. As stated in the story, Mankato has been a competitive D-II of late.

 

[Liut]

Producing?

Egads.

+1

 

[Big Circus]

But what does Craig T. Nelson think?

 

[Captain_Kirk]

But what does Craig T. Nelson think?

Was just about to post the same.

Next week, on a very special episode of Coach.....

 

[Steak Snabler]

I realize it's Division II, but given the hours football coaches at all levels put in on the job, how would he have time to do this on the side?

 

[turski7]

But what does Craig T. Nelson think?

Was just about to post the same.

Next week, on a very special episode of Coach.....

Coach thinks Dober needs to be fired.

 

[Small Town Guy]

This could turn into an interesting legal situation. The videos were cell phone videos he took of his own kids, under 10.

http://mankatofreepress.com/local/x257414848/Charges-filed-against-MSU-coach-Hoffner

But here's description:

he sheriffs investigators determined three videos produced in June and August show three children under 10 years old taking off towels they were wearing and dancing around in some cases fondling themselves and exposing parts of their buttocks. As they were filmed, and adult voice could be heard.

The children called the adult "dad" in the video and investigators determined through photos and facebook that the children in the video were Hoffner's children.

Another video shows a young girl sleeping and then being asked by an adult to go to the bathroom. The video show her buttocks with underwear on as she is walking to the bathroom.

Say police find no other child porn or anything on any of his computers or anything. Many people have naked pictures of their kids, usually, obviously as babies, not closer to 10. Are all of them child porn? What's the line? Will be interesting to see if there's a legal argument there. And what about the moral one?

 

[Beaker]

I don't know. I can only speculate, but I'm guessing that if they were simply pictures of his kids, he would not have been arrested. I'm thinking they must have (and it's incredibly repugnant even thinking about this) been obviously sexually suggestive pictures for him to be arrested.

 

[Pilot]

But what does Craig T. Nelson think?

Was just about to post the same.

Next week, on a very special episode of Coach.....

Coach thinks Dober needs to be fired.

Dauber? I think you're barking up the wrong tree there. Luther is a strange old bachelor who lives by himself. Howard, too, would make me wonder.

 

[PCLoadLetter]

This could turn into an interesting legal situation. The videos were cell phone videos he took of his own kids, under 10.

http://mankatofreepress.com/local/x257414848/Charges-filed-against-MSU-coach-Hoffner

But here's description:

he sheriffs investigators determined three videos produced in June and August show three children under 10 years old taking off towels they were wearing and dancing around in some cases fondling themselves and exposing parts of their buttocks. As they were filmed, and adult voice could be heard.

The children called the adult "dad" in the video and investigators determined through photos and facebook that the children in the video were Hoffner's children.

Another video shows a young girl sleeping and then being asked by an adult to go to the bathroom. The video show her buttocks with underwear on as she is walking to the bathroom.

Say police find no other child porn or anything on any of his computers or anything. Many people have naked pictures of their kids, usually, obviously as babies, not closer to 10. Are all of them child porn? What's the line? Will be interesting to see if there's a legal argument there. And what about the moral one?

Impossible to say without seeing the videos, obviously, but I would think the fondling has the potential to be pretty damning. Seems like potentially a tough case to make in court.

People can be really strange about pictures of their own children. I'm Facebook friends with someone I knew in college 20+ years ago. She posted a photo of her three daughters, aged roughly 4 to 9. The caption was "This is what I woke up to this morning!" In the photo the three girls are side by side, naked, facing away from the camera and grabbing their ankles. Someone, presumably Dad, has written "Happy Birthday Mom!" across their butts. Someone commented under the photo that it may not be the kind of thing she should share on Facebook and she replied "If someone is sick enough to see something wrong with this, that's their problem!" You know, like I'm crazy for not wanting to have a picture of the anuses of three prepubescent girls on my Facebook timeline.

 

[Small Town Guy]

Coach's wife gave a press conference today, calling charges ridiculous. Also, authorities have not found anything else on any other devices.

http://www.startribune.com/local/167557495.html

 

[Starman]

People can be really strange about pictures of their own children. I'm Facebook friends with someone I knew in college 20+ years ago. She posted a photo of her three daughters, aged roughly 4 to 9. The caption was "This is what I woke up to this morning!" In the photo the three girls are side by side, naked, facing away from the camera and grabbing their ankles. Someone, presumably Dad, has written "Happy Birthday Mom!" across their butts. Someone commented under the photo that it may not be the kind of thing she should share on Facebook and she replied "If someone is sick enough to see something wrong with this, that's their problem!" You know, like I'm crazy for not wanting to have a picture of the anuses of three prepubescent girls on my Facebook timeline.

Somebody in my FB group did something very similar and reacted similarly when several people IMed about it.

They were only a very remote shoestring acquaintance of mine, so I had no problems whatsoever firing off a scathing wall post and immediately defriending them.

I don't deal in kiddie porn; I don't need ****ing idiots on FB giving authorities evidence to think I (and everybody else in their friends list) do.

 

[User 11148]

There's a really cute picture of yours truly cleaning out the bathtub after giving the youngest a bath. She was just at the walking stage -- I guess she was probably around a year to a year-and-a-half old -- but she'd decided she'd "help" me. So there I am, on my knees with my back to the camera, bending over into the tub and swishing it out, and there she is, right beside me (not bending over, but with her little butt just a-shinin'). The picture, taken by my wife, is priceless. Glad I never scanned it in and put it on Facebook!

 

[Starman]

That's a great picture to be shared between you and your wife. And keep it that way.

 

[dixiehack]

What's more, you didn't wake the child up for the express purpose of following her to the toilet with camera in hand.

However, the bathtub photo will make great embarrassment material when she starts dating.

 

[User 11148]

What's more, you didn't wake the child up for the express purpose of following her to the toilet with camera in hand.

However, the bathtub photo will make great embarrassment material when she starts dating.

Oh, I've got some great rehearsal dinner/wedding reception material. Around the same time as the pic I mentioned, my knuckle-headed son, who was maybe four at the time, decided to do a little pretend construction work right after a bath. The picture has him standing there hammering on the wall with a toy hammer, wearing a toy hard hat ... and nothing else.

 

[Small Town Guy]

Charges all dismissed, which as I read everything about the story was exactly what should have happened.

http://www.startribune.com/local/181574761.html?refer=y