LVRJ: bush administration wants random drug testing of high school students

[Herbert Anchovy]

Big Bertha Madras, White House deputy drug tsaritsa, told educators this week about a federal grant program for random drug testing of high school students in extracurricular activities.

A fine idea. Maybe we can start with the president.

http://www.lvrj.com/news/7183316.html

 

[Football_Bat]

I didn't know there were still some schools that didn't drug test.

 

[JR]

Chipping away, one civil liberty at a time.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Earls v. Oklahoma says any kid in any extracurricular activity can be randomly tested, but that doesn't extend to just grabbing a kid in the hall, as far as I know. This is just ****ing wonderful. Let's raise a generation of schoolchildren who don't know they have any rights so they won't know how to exercise them as grown-ups.

 

[cranberry]

I'm absolutely amazed so few people even raise questions about the propriety of programs that allow unwarranted invasions of privacy.

What rights shall we give up next, folks?

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

When people ask what damage the current hysteria over PED's can do to ordinary people, this is Exhibit A.

 

[Herbert Anchovy]

We will all keep our mouths shut about The Party and just drink our Victory Gin.

This testing happens to my child over my dead body.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

You and me both, General.

 

[zeke12]

I remember writing a column for my high school paper after they used drug dogs to sniff the lockers.

I said metal detectors and random drug testing weren't far behind.

The principal pulled it, calling it hyperbole.

I **** you not.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Good not to be ****ted.

 

[zeke12]

I considered farting in your general direction, but decided against that, too.

 

[JR]

When people ask what damage the current hysteria over PED's can do to ordinary people, this is Exhibit A.

Can you translate PED into Canuckistan, please?

 

[zeke12]

Performance enhancing drugs.

 

[cranberry]

When people ask what damage the current hysteria over PED's can do to ordinary people, this is Exhibit A.

And the average knucklehead among us won't even realize it until it comes back to haunt him. The government knew exactly what it was doing when it made "greedy spoiled" athletes one of the first targets of its assault on privacy rights. Everyone cheered them on. I laugh whenever I read how proud the Game of Shadows authors were when the president patted them on the head for their great work of public service.

 

[Big Chee]

I laugh whenever I read how proud the Game of Shadows authors were when the president patted them on the head for their great work of public service.

I was actually disgusted.

 

[93Devil]

The reason why any student in a club (that includes teams) can be drug tested is that they have the potential to leave the school grounds with this club. That means no school nurse and limited staff coverage. A student with a drug problem would be an unsafe hazard in these types of situations. Think of traveling on a bus to a game two hours away and a kid is trying to shoot up in the backseat.

Because they are going off of school grounds, they are subject to a different set of rules.

Drug dogs in schools I do not have a problem with. Schools are supposed to be safe places. You have 150 staff looking over 3,000 students in a high school. What if your home was a 20-1 ratio of parents to teens? Would you do these things as well.?

 

[zeke12]

Devil --

That's a BIG stretch.

 

[cranberry]

I laugh whenever I read how proud the Game of Shadows authors were when the president patted them on the head for their great work of public service.

I was actually disgusted.

If I didn't have the ability to laugh at the absurdity I'd spend a lot of time crying.

 

[JR]

The reason why any student in a club (that includes teams) can be drug tested is that they have the potential to leave the school grounds with this club. That means no school nurse and limited staff coverage. A student with a drug problem would be an unsafe hazard in these types of situations. Think of traveling on a bus to a game two hours away and a kid is trying to shoot up in the backseat.

Because they are going off of school grounds, they are subject to a different set of rules.

Drug dogs in schools I do not have a problem with. Schools are supposed to be safe places. You have 150 staff looking over 3,000 students in a high school. What if your home was a 20-1 ratio of parents to teens? Would you do these things as well.?

Well, they managed to brainwash someone.

 

[novelist_wannabe]

We will all keep our mouths shut about The Party and just drink our Victory Gin.

This testing happens to my child over my dead body.

I'm curious (seriously, just curious, not being argumentative here) ... Testing as a member of the general student population, or testing as an eligibility requirement for extracurricular activies?

I've talked to no small number of high school coaches who want to do it for their teams and make it a condition of participation. The rationale they use is, "We just want to give them another reason not to do drugs."

I can sort of see the logic in that, although it's another small step toward having the schools raise your kids for you. Extracurricular activities are optional. On the other hand, having compulsory attendance in school and then requiring drug tests of those compulorily enrolled students flies in the face of every principle upon which this country was founded.