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flexmaster33 said:
Thanks Dog8Cats...just the type of advice I was looking for...some good ideas in there...I know it's a financial hardship for many of the families. A real Catch-22...clapping and celebrating a big win, a big moment for their kids, then the "Oh, we have to pay for a cross-country trip" moment shortly follows.

Not just that, but the team has been in SoCal since Aug. 2. And they went straight to Williamsport from SoCal, so they're looking at being away from home for a month. Another good angle would be the coaches. How is it affecting their jobs? Are they out of vacation? I heard a couple of stories over the years that coaches lost their jobs/quit them because they were doing a once-in-a-lifetime experience trying to get to Williamsport. And, yes, the expenses pile up. Getting to Williamsport ain't cheap, and the hotel rates definitely get jacked up. Throw that on top of being in SoCal the previous 10 days ... that's a pricey month, to say nothing of parents who are doing all of the traveling and their job situation. You'll have no problem finding loads of stories to do.
 
BillyT said:
PEteacher said:
My advice: Don't cover it.

Seriously, you paid for four years of college so you can ... interview 12-year-old baseball players?

I'm sorry, but I'm way above that.

Wow.

It's not about you, dude.

It's about the readers.

You have a crappy attitude.

Oh, please spare me that "it's about the readers" spiel.

Of course, the job is about the readers, but there are lines, too. If it were really "about the readers", we'd cover competitive cheerleading like we cover basketball. If it were really "about the readers", we'd publish the names of alleged rape victims. If it were really "about the readers", we'd write stories about the junior varsity and freshmen teams.

But we don't because there are levels that we won't lower ourselves to, regardless of what the readers want.

Be honest with yourself. Did you really go through four-plus years of college, work your tail off to get into the journalism industry, and perhaps make a few upward movements to cover Little League baseball?

I didn't.

And I wouldn't be canned for insubordination, because I'd exit that door on my own accord first if I were ever asked to lower myself to that level.
 
PEteacher said:
BillyT said:
PEteacher said:
My advice: Don't cover it.

Seriously, you paid for four years of college so you can ... interview 12-year-old baseball players?

I'm sorry, but I'm way above that.

Wow.

It's not about you, dude.

It's about the readers.

You have a crappy attitude.

Oh, please spare me that "it's about the readers" spiel.

Of course, the job is about the readers, but there are lines, too. If it were really "about the readers", we'd cover competitive cheerleading like we cover basketball. If it were really "about the readers", we'd publish the names of alleged rape victims. If it were really "about the readers", we'd write stories about the junior varsity and freshmen teams.

But we don't because there are levels that we won't lower ourselves to, regardless of what the readers want.

Be honest with yourself. Did you really go through four-plus years of college, work your tail off to get into the journalism industry, and perhaps make a few upward movements to cover Little League baseball?

I didn't.

And I wouldn't be canned for insubordination, because I'd exit that door on my own accord first if I were ever asked to lower myself to that level.

We don't cover competitive cheerleading, middle school baseball and the local Little League regular season, because it is about the readers. We know the vast majority of them don't care about those sports -- just a few vocal parents. The LLWS (or the other youth baseball organizations) does have a much more broad appeal. People all of a sudden care, because the kids are representing their town on a National stage, and a televised one, at that.
I really didn't want to go to so South Mississippi in August when I was sent to the Dixie Youth World Series a few years back, but I wanted my name on the story. Why? Because I knew I could do a better job of telling the team's story than anyone else at my shop. The team was the talk of the community for about a month.
 
People-watch. You're probably gonna have to do the story about your team's parents/cheering section; see if another team's looks interesting. Mexico's was a blast. Between my shaky Spanish and their shaky English, we had fun.

Make sure you've got phone numbers for at least a parent or two, particularly for the off-day stuff. We did that "Our Boys (and their families) As Tourists" thing and it worked out pretty well.

If you have night games, be prepared in case the coach and players decline to come in for interviews (or to be interviewed when you go out).

Be prepared to laugh when you get the spiel about protecting the kids and limiting media access, then watch ESPN run the show.

We did little notes on where each of the teams came from. I enjoyed researching those more than anything.

As of a few years ago, if you weren't there reasonably early in the day, nearby parking got scarce. Between staying c. 30 miles away and several late-night games for the locals, made for some long days. There's a little bar down the road. Be darned if I remember the name. (Found it: Mountaineer Lounge, 420 E. Mountain Ave.) Food wasn't bad, and reasonable. Helpful after a late night.

If you can roll with the punches, think it's a decent time. I couldn't for an assortment of reasons at the time and was mostly miserable. Now I wouldn't mind going back someday.
 
PEteacher said:
BillyT said:
PEteacher said:
My advice: Don't cover it.

Seriously, you paid for four years of college so you can ... interview 12-year-old baseball players?

I'm sorry, but I'm way above that.

Wow.

It's not about you, dude.

It's about the readers.

You have a crappy attitude.

Oh, please spare me that "it's about the readers" spiel.

Of course, the job is about the readers, but there are lines, too. If it were really "about the readers", we'd cover competitive cheerleading like we cover basketball. If it were really "about the readers", we'd publish the names of alleged rape victims. If it were really "about the readers", we'd write stories about the junior varsity and freshmen teams.

But we don't because there are levels that we won't lower ourselves to, regardless of what the readers want.

Be honest with yourself. Did you really go through four-plus years of college, work your tail off to get into the journalism industry, and perhaps make a few upward movements to cover Little League baseball?

I didn't.

And I wouldn't be canned for insubordination, because I'd exit that door on my own accord first if I were ever asked to lower myself to that level.

Yeesh, is this some kind of performance art that we're all unaware of?

You have an age requirement for what does and doesn't deserve coverage? How does that conversation even go? "Oh, I'm sorry. I'd love to do that story, but my journalistic integrity precludes me from writing about anyone under the age of 16."
 
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No. 1 - Enjoy the hell out of it. It's like nothing you can imagine. It's a different experience and one that is kind of mind-boggling for a tournament for 12-year olds. This will be my fourth year working in the area and despite it being 10-14 days of hell for what we have to do in Williamsport, it's still fun once you get in the flow.

2 - Get to know the team Uncles. Each team has, I believe, 2 Uncles assigned to the team by Little League and they're essentially chaperones and your guides. They'll know the team's practice schedule among other things and can help coordinate an interview with someone if you can get ahold of them at practice or after a game. Most of the Uncles have been doing it for 10, 15 or 20 years and are Williamsport area residents as well.

3 - In all honesty, the games are great and everybody wants to win, but being at the LLWS is about everything outside of the baseball. The kids are going to get all kinds of equipment from companies who sponsor the tournament. They're going to spend time in the Grove (the player dorm area which is off-limits to media) playing ping pong and swimming and playing other games with kids from different countries that'll make for good stories. These kids are going to play in front of a couple thousand people, but probably nothing like the 30,000 that showed up for the Clinton County team last year, in a setting they've never been a part of before. There are going to be so many stories to write that go way beyond baseball that your head will explode.

But like I said, make sure to try and enjoy the trip. Williamsport isn't any different from any other small town in America, but it's a cool and crowded place to be during the Series.
 
PEteacher said:
BillyT said:
PEteacher said:
My advice: Don't cover it.

Seriously, you paid for four years of college so you can ... interview 12-year-old baseball players?

I'm sorry, but I'm way above that.

Wow.

It's not about you, dude.

It's about the readers.

You have a crappy attitude.

Oh, please spare me that "it's about the readers" spiel.

Of course, the job is about the readers, but there are lines, too. If it were really "about the readers", we'd cover competitive cheerleading like we cover basketball. If it were really "about the readers", we'd publish the names of alleged rape victims. If it were really "about the readers", we'd write stories about the junior varsity and freshmen teams.

But we don't because there are levels that we won't lower ourselves to, regardless of what the readers want.

Be honest with yourself. Did you really go through four-plus years of college, work your tail off to get into the journalism industry, and perhaps make a few upward movements to cover Little League baseball?

I didn't.

And I wouldn't be canned for insubordination, because I'd exit that door on my own accord first if I were ever asked to lower myself to that level.

Poor ESPN. Spend all that money and effort to cover something that is beneath them.
 
Talked to Gresham manager after he won NW Region on Saturday. He was scheduled to start a new job today....and he doesn't even have a son on the team.
 
Maybe I've just been stuck at my desk for too long, but I think the chance to go to South Williamsport to cover the LLWS would be one of the cooler things to happen.

As I've indicated previously, I strongly disagree with PEteacher's stance that this is "beneath" covering. In fact, I think something like this could be a tremendous resume builder, if you do it right.

Notebooks, blogs, player profiles, family profiles, town profiles -- it seems like there's an endless supply of material here.

Have fun with it, Flexmaster.
 
MightyMouse said:
Maybe I've just been stuck at my desk for too long, but I think the chance to go to South Williamsport to cover the LLWS would be one of the cooler things to happen.

As I've indicated previously, I strongly disagree with PEteacher's stance that this is "beneath" covering. In fact, I think something like this could be a tremendous resume builder, if you do it right.

Notebooks, blogs, player profiles, family profiles, town profiles -- it seems like there's an endless supply of material here.

Have fun with it, Flexmaster.

Though they probably would've already you if they did, it couldnt hurt to ask around to see if the town has ever sent a team to the LLWS before. If it has, that opens the possibility for several more angles. Especially if one of today's players is related to a player from the past.
 
It's only the fourth league from the state to get to the World Series, and yes, the first from this city in the state.
 
I covered the LLWS in Williamsport twice, but not in nine years. I've covered Super Bowls, World Series, major college bowls games, All-Star Games, the Daytown 500 -- you name it -- but the LLWS was up there. What a great event.

Both times I was fortunate to stay in Williamsport. The main drag where the restaurants and hotels is in Williamsport and the LL facility is actually across the river in S. Williamsport -- which is an All-American little town. The whole town caters to the event that week.

Contact the head coach ASAP and get his cell phone. Get to know him. Get him to text you practice times. You'll want to be at all the practices to get to know the kids as much as possible. When I covered it, the kids didn't talk after they lost a game. They were taken right to their compound up the hill and it was up to the coach and parents to make them available. You can't go in the compound. If they won, the kids would come to the interview area.

Get to know the parents. They all hang out together and they have stories and great background on the kids. I went out to eat with them and even went to the bar at the TGI Friday's with them.

I got the idea the kids had no idea how big of a deal the LLWS was. They were signing autographs, playing on TV and in front of a bunch of people. What makes the LLWS great is admission is free and the concessions -- at least 9 years ago -- were dirt cheap. It's how it was supposed to be.

Have fun with it.

And for the guy who thinks it's below him to cover the LLWS, covering the LLWS in 2000 changed my career. I covered preps for years and was sent to Williamsport. I did a great job, got A1 stories at a top 10 major daily, and soon was on my way up the chain. Four years later, I was on a pro beat. Make the most of it.
 
PEteacher said:
BillyT said:
PEteacher said:
My advice: Don't cover it.

Seriously, you paid for four years of college so you can ... interview 12-year-old baseball players?

I'm sorry, but I'm way above that.

Wow.

It's not about you, dude.

It's about the readers.

You have a crappy attitude.

Oh, please spare me that "it's about the readers" spiel.

Of course, the job is about the readers, but there are lines, too. If it were really "about the readers", we'd cover competitive cheerleading like we cover basketball. If it were really "about the readers", we'd publish the names of alleged rape victims. If it were really "about the readers", we'd write stories about the junior varsity and freshmen teams.

But we don't because there are levels that we won't lower ourselves to, regardless of what the readers want.

Be honest with yourself. Did you really go through four-plus years of college, work your tail off to get into the journalism industry, and perhaps make a few upward movements to cover Little League baseball?

I didn't.

And I wouldn't be canned for insubordination, because I'd exit that door on my own accord first if I were ever asked to lower myself to that level.

You just don't get it.

First of all, it's a major international sporting event that many of us would love to cover.

Second, you have a fricking job, so you do it.

And yes, you're doing it for the readers. Some of us do covering competitive cheerleading.

And by bringing rape victims into a sports discussion, you prove just how much you don't get it.

Holy cow.
 
Again, I covered the LLWS for a Top 10 circulation daily and got a few A1 stories and changed my career. If you would rather quit than cover it, go ahead.
 
Yes, I can say PE Teacher is officially off base...far off base.

Down here one day and it's been crazy fun. Not only am I having a blast, but our numbers are blowing up back home. We're getting more feedback/interest on this than anything I've covered in by 16 years with the paper. Huge crowds, fun environment, volunteers who bend over backward to help you out. It's been fantastic...here's hoping the team wins, so I can hang around a few extra days :)
 
What fun this has been...just starting me second day over here. I've done radio, Facebook, Twitter, blogging along with my regular print and website duties with the paper back home. Our numbers are off the charts. I think we had 7 Little League stories in today's edition alone.

Covering 12-year-olds at the World Series definitely is not beneath me. What a great experience.
 
Glad to hear you're having a good time. Sounds like you're making the most of it. Keep it up, and best of luck to you.
 
flexmaster33 said:
What fun this has been...just starting me second day over here. I've done radio, Facebook, Twitter, blogging along with my regular print and website duties with the paper back home. Our numbers are off the charts. I think we had 7 Little League stories in today's edition alone.

Covering 12-year-olds at the World Series definitely is not beneath me. What a great experience.

Well, at least you're having fun while you flush that college degree down the toilet. :)
 
Did flex have to shell out for the trip up front? That's a lot of scratch to travel out to Pennsyltucky on short notice.
 

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