Lions fire Marinelli, son-in-law, keep Mayhew and Lewand

[mustangj17]

The Lions canned Marinelli and his son-in-law.

Demoted Colletto to line coach and kept Martin Mayhew and Tom Lewand.

Just another example of WCF doing half the job.

http://www.freep.com/article/20081229/SPORTS01/81229015

Mayhew and Lewand are incompetent prodigy's of Matt Millen. They could have gotten Parcells, or Pioli or the bum that stands next to the Grayhound station near Michigan Avenue to run the team.

The demote Colletto to o-line coach; where he belongs. Except how does a guy stay motivated after being demoted? They should have never promoted him in the first place. Recipe for disaster. They also fired the director of pro personnel. They should have fired every coach, director and manager including the front office types.

Another thing that pisses me off. Now that Marinelli is gone the Lions have a bunch of overpaid "TAMPA 2 Guys" on the roster, or guys who Marinelli brought in.

DeWayne White is making a ton of money and is hurt, Leigh Bodden was brought in all of those guys need to go.

Others who need to go: Backus, Raoila - get rid of the losing attitude.

Furry, McDonald, Kitna - All Martz guys, Kitna probably done anyhow.

 

[bostonbred]

Don't you have to clean house after putting up an 0-16?

Get rid of most of the terrible players and coaches, rebuild around Calvin Johnson.

 

[Drip]

Does Rob Parker get an assist on this firing?

 

[mustangj17]

They have 3 great players to build around. It shouldn't be too hard.

Calvin Johnon, Kevin Smith, Ernie Sims.

Use the draft to build an offensive/defensive line. Draft a QB, sign another in free agency, let the 4 current QBs go and hope to develop another receiver.

 

[Simon_Cowbell]

They have 3 great players to build around. It shouldn't be too hard.

Calvin Johnon, Kevin Smith, Ernie Sims.

Use the draft to build an offensive/defensive line. Draft a QB, sign another in free agency, let the 4 current QBs go and hope to develop another receiver.

I'd trade Calvin Johnson for an absolute boatload, too.

Teams that lose all their home games by a 22-point average ain't turning around any time soon.

 

[mustangj17]

If they trade Calvin Johnson, they won't even get 10,000 fans per game next year. But I wouldn't be opposed to it if they could get two are three first-rounders. How often does a sure-fire, young receiver come around? I bet teams like the Eagles, Dolphins, Ravens, Raiders, 49ers, and Rams would pay top dollar for a guy like that.

Anyhow, this is my 5 year prediction for the Lions.

2009: 3-13
2010: 6-10
2011: 5-11 - coach fired mid-season.
2012: 7-9
2013: 5-11

 

[Drip]

If they trade Calvin Johnson, they won't even get 10,000 fans per game next year. But I wouldn't be opposed to it if they could get two are three first-rounders. How often does a sure-fire, young receiver come around? I bet teams like the Eagles, Dolphins, Ravens, Raiders, 49ers, and Rams would pay top dollar for a guy like that.

Anyhow, this is my 5 year prediction for the Lions.

2009: 3-13
2010: 6-10
2011: 5-11 - coach fired mid-season.
2012: 7-9
2013: 5-11

The way the economy is and the state of the Lions, 10,000 would be outstanding. I know one person who will buy a season ticket - Tim Allen.

 

[bostonbred]

They have 3 great players to build around. It shouldn't be too hard.

Calvin Johnon, Kevin Smith, Ernie Sims.

Use the draft to build an offensive/defensive line. Draft a QB, sign another in free agency, let the 4 current QBs go and hope to develop another receiver.

I'd trade Calvin Johnson for an absolute boatload, too.

Teams that lose all their home games by a 22-point average ain't turning around any time soon.

Worth considering, definitely.
But he's 23 and put up 1,331 yards/12 touchdowns with awful QBs. Might be the most talented WR in football. They are probably bringing in a franchise QB to build around (money's on Cassel), so it's at least something in the cupboard for him. I'd pimp Johnson up, say you're not trading him, and don't unless an offer blows you away.

 

[Simon_Cowbell]

They have 3 great players to build around. It shouldn't be too hard.

Calvin Johnon, Kevin Smith, Ernie Sims.

Use the draft to build an offensive/defensive line. Draft a QB, sign another in free agency, let the 4 current QBs go and hope to develop another receiver.

I'd trade Calvin Johnson for an absolute boatload, too.

Teams that lose all their home games by a 22-point average ain't turning around any time soon.

Worth considering, definitely.
But he's 23 and put up 1,331 yards/12 touchdowns with awful QBs. Might be the most talented WR in football. They are probably bringing in a franchise QB to build around (money's on Cassel), so it's at least something in the cupboard for him. I'd pimp Johnson up, say you're not trading him, and don't unless an offer blows you away.

As I put on the other thread. There is a good chance Brady is out all of next season, too.

Cassel ain't going anywhere.

 

[slappy4428]

Last time the Lions brought in a "franchise QB", it was Scott Mitchell and we all know how THAT turned out...

 

[mustangj17]

Last time the Lions brought in a "franchise QB", it was Scott Mitchell and we all know how THAT turned out...

And every time they draft a QB it blows up. Harrington, Stanton, Orlovsky, Peete, Ware, McMahon. WOOT!

 

[bostonbred]

They have 3 great players to build around. It shouldn't be too hard.

Calvin Johnon, Kevin Smith, Ernie Sims.

Use the draft to build an offensive/defensive line. Draft a QB, sign another in free agency, let the 4 current QBs go and hope to develop another receiver.

I'd trade Calvin Johnson for an absolute boatload, too.

Teams that lose all their home games by a 22-point average ain't turning around any time soon.

Worth considering, definitely.
But he's 23 and put up 1,331 yards/12 touchdowns with awful QBs. Might be the most talented WR in football. They are probably bringing in a franchise QB to build around (money's on Cassel), so it's at least something in the cupboard for him. I'd pimp Johnson up, say you're not trading him, and don't unless an offer blows you away.

As I put on the other thread. There is a good chance Brady is out all of next season, too.

Cassel ain't going anywhere.

They better franchise him then or else there's little chance of that.

 

[Simon_Cowbell]

Last time the Lions brought in a "franchise QB", it was Scott Mitchell and we all know how THAT turned out...

And every time they draft a QB it blows up. Harrington, Stanton, Orlovsky, Peete, Ware, McMahon. WOOT!

Yet they passed on Staubach, alienating my dad as a fan.

 

[Simon_Cowbell]

They have 3 great players to build around. It shouldn't be too hard.

Calvin Johnon, Kevin Smith, Ernie Sims.

Use the draft to build an offensive/defensive line. Draft a QB, sign another in free agency, let the 4 current QBs go and hope to develop another receiver.

I'd trade Calvin Johnson for an absolute boatload, too.

Teams that lose all their home games by a 22-point average ain't turning around any time soon.

Worth considering, definitely.
But he's 23 and put up 1,331 yards/12 touchdowns with awful QBs. Might be the most talented WR in football. They are probably bringing in a franchise QB to build around (money's on Cassel), so it's at least something in the cupboard for him. I'd pimp Johnson up, say you're not trading him, and don't unless an offer blows you away.

As I put on the other thread. There is a good chance Brady is out all of next season, too.

Cassel ain't going anywhere.

They better franchise him then or else there's little chance of that.

It will be done. Plenty of cap space.

 

[mustangj17]

What is the deal with Brady? A few months ago all we heard about were infections and more injuries. Then I heard it was all false. Now ESPN said he has scar-tissue build-up. Can I trust ESPN?

Is Brady even hurt? They said he was working out in the Patriot's weight-room a few weeks ago. When you tear an ACL, you aren't working out for atleast a month or two. But with multiple surgeries and scar-tissue build-up how was he working out? Was that misinformation too?

 

[Simon_Cowbell]

What is the deal with Brady? A few months ago all we heard about were infections and more injuries. Then I heard it was all false. Now ESPN said he has scar-tissue build-up. Can I trust ESPN?

Is Brady even hurt? They said he was working out in the Patriot's weight-room a few weeks ago. When you tear an ACL, you aren't working out for atleast a month or two. But with multiple surgeries and scar-tissue build-up how was he working out? Was that misinformation too?

I think he is able to move, Joe Sixpack style, but perhaps not Joe Montana style.

 

[Armchair_QB]

Christ, Lion fans should be lighting **** on fire like it's Devils Night right now. There is no way you can keep anybody on the football side of that operation. Everybody has to go.

Granted, you have to keep a few folks on staff for the transition, then let the new GM/Football Operations Guy can them once he takes over, but it makes no sense to PROMOTE anybody who was hired by Matt Millen. And if you're firing Marinelli, you have to release the whole coaching staff too.

 

[Guy_Incognito]

They have 3 great players to build around. It shouldn't be too hard.

Calvin Johnon, Kevin Smith, Ernie Sims.

Use the draft to build an offensive/defensive line. Draft a QB, sign another in free agency, let the 4 current QBs go and hope to develop another receiver.

I'd trade Calvin Johnson for an absolute boatload, too.

Teams that lose all their home games by a 22-point average ain't turning around any time soon.

Didn't you say the same thing last year about Miami and Atlanta? They were both messes just as big as Detroit.

 

[Simon_Cowbell]

They have 3 great players to build around. It shouldn't be too hard.

Calvin Johnon, Kevin Smith, Ernie Sims.

Use the draft to build an offensive/defensive line. Draft a QB, sign another in free agency, let the 4 current QBs go and hope to develop another receiver.

I'd trade Calvin Johnson for an absolute boatload, too.

Teams that lose all their home games by a 22-point average ain't turning around any time soon.

Didn't you say the same thing last year about Miami and Atlanta? They were both messes just as big as Detroit.

The Dolphins?

Are you ****ing crazy?

And, the Falcons won four games in 2007.

 

[PopeDirkBenedict]

The Lions problem is that they have no talent on defense. Give them a decent o-line and a Pennington-type QB and the offense would be fine. Not great, but fine. Play this mental game: take any defense in the league and make yourself the GM. You can trade one of your defensive starters for one of Detroit's starter at the same position. Other than maybe Ernie Sims, how many Lions guys would you want if you have to give up your starter? Even teams like the Fins and Falcons had talented defensive players (John Abraham, Keith Brookings, Jason Ferguson, etc.)

If I am the Detroit GM, I pray every day that a QB-needy team falls in love with Bradford or Stafford and is willing to trade up to get him. And I keep trading down and stockpiling picks and use the picks to build up the offensive and defensive lines. I don't think you trade Calvin Johnson. He is insanely talented and still very young. Given an offensive line and a decent QB, he is going to tear the league up. You don't trade away the only difference maker you have unless someone really offers you the Herschel Walker package.