"Jena at Columbia (University)"

[RokSki]

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10102007/news/regionalnews/noose_shocker_for_black_columb.htm?page=0

A sad and cowardly act undertaken at the prestigious institution.

 

[imjustagirl2]

The Post should hire me! I would have caught that they spelled her last name two different ways....

COME ON, NYP! I'M RIGHT HERE!

 

[Tom Petty]

The Post should hire me! I would have caught that they spelled her last name two different ways....

COME ON, NYP! I'M RIGHT HERE!

hell ijag, i'll one-up you: i could have spelled her name two different ways, too.


take that.

 

[Webster]

It would be nice if they, you know, stated what the issue with the other professor was.

The racial issues at Columbia have usually come from the desire of the university to expand and the resistance of the mostly black tenants in nearby buildings (many of which are owned by the school). That issue has been going on the the 60s.

 

[markvid]

"This is an assault on African Americans and therefore it is an assault on every one of us," President Bollinger said in a statement. "I know I speak on behalf of every member of our communities in condemning this horrible action."

However, if a black had done it to a white, it'd be an isolated incident that would be ignored.
I am so sick of the PC talk.
Assault on every one of us. Yeah, ok.

 

[heyabbott]

"This is an assault on African Americans and therefore it is an assault on every one of us," President Bollinger said in a statement. "I know I speak on behalf of every member of our communities in condemning this horrible action."

However, if a black had done it to a white, it'd be an isolated incident that would be ignored.
I am so sick of the PC talk.
Assault on every one of us. Yeah, ok.

But's it's OK to sponsor anti-Semitic speakers? But an alleged incident that's probably a setup or a fraud is the end of civilization?

 

[markvid]

"This is an assault on African Americans and therefore it is an assault on every one of us," President Bollinger said in a statement. "I know I speak on behalf of every member of our communities in condemning this horrible action."

However, if a black had done it to a white, it'd be an isolated incident that would be ignored.
I am so sick of the PC talk.
Assault on every one of us. Yeah, ok.

But's it's OK to sponsor anti-Semitic speakers? But an alleged incident that's probably a setup or a fraud is the end of civilization?

Isn't it ironic, dontcha think?

 

[heyabbott]

"This is an assault on African Americans and therefore it is an assault on every one of us," President Bollinger said in a statement. "I know I speak on behalf of every member of our communities in condemning this horrible action."

However, if a black had done it to a white, it'd be an isolated incident that would be ignored.
I am so sick of the PC talk.
Assault on every one of us. Yeah, ok.

But's it's OK to sponsor anti-Semitic speakers? But an alleged incident that's probably a setup or a fraud is the end of civilization?

Ironic? Maybe, but it seems closer to the truth that children need a more controlled enviorment.
Isn't it ironic, dontcha think?

 

[Johnny Dangerously]

This story can't be accurate. Racial problems exist only in the Deep South, especially Louisiana.

 

[Webster]

"an alleged incident that's probably a setup or a fraud". Wow.

 

[The Big Ragu]

"This is an assault on African Americans and therefore it is an assault on every one of us," President Bollinger said in a statement. "I know I speak on behalf of every member of our communities in condemning this horrible action."

However, if a black had done it to a white, it'd be an isolated incident that would be ignored.
I am so sick of the PC talk.
Assault on every one of us. Yeah, ok.

Blacks are a minority, and throughout this country's history, they have been an oppressed minority. Whites, by and large, have not had to deal with the kind of threats and slights blacks deal with as a matter of course. So his statement is appropriate as far as I am concerned. Blacks deserve special regard, and strong statements from everyone, when something like this happens, because noose and other threatening symbols--which have been on the rise because of this Jena 6 story--rarely if ever target white people. They only target blacks. The day blacks, as a whole, start perpetrating the kind of **** people of other races still perpetrate on blacks every day, I'll accept someone saying, "If a black had done it to a white it would be ignored." I was with a black friend two weekends ago. There were three of us. The black guy, a white woman and me (white, and dorky to boot). We hailed a cab. My black friend stepped forward, opened the back door to the cab, and the driver screeched off with the door open. That kind of **** never happens to me. Blacks may not be getting lynched regularly the way they did 50 years ago, but they still put up with a ton of crap. I have black friends who frequently get pulled over because their cars are too nice. Those kinds of things are sickening, but they are nothing compared to someone hanging a noose as a threatening symbol. Anyone making a strong statement about that crap is not just engaging in "PC talk," because the treatment is very real and still happens way too frequently.

 

[heyabbott]

"This is an assault on African Americans and therefore it is an assault on every one of us," President Bollinger said in a statement. "I know I speak on behalf of every member of our communities in condemning this horrible action."

However, if a black had done it to a white, it'd be an isolated incident that would be ignored.
I am so sick of the PC talk.
Assault on every one of us. Yeah, ok.

Blacks are a minority, and throughout this country's history, they have been an oppressed minority. Whites, by and large, have not had to deal with the kind of threats and slights blacks deal with as a matter of course. So his statement is appropriate as far as I am concerned. Blacks deserve special regard, and strong statements from everyone, when something like this happens, because noose and other threatening symbols--which have been on the rise because of this Jena 6 story--rarely if ever target white people. They only target blacks. The day blacks, as a whole, start perpetrating the kind of **** people of other races still perpetrate on blacks every day, I'll accept someone saying, "If a black had done it to a white it would be ignored." I was with a black friend two weekends ago. There were three of us. The black guy, a white woman and me (white, and dorky to boot). We hailed a cab. My black friend stepped forward, opened the back door to the cab, and the driver screeched off with the door open. That kind of **** never happens to me. Blacks may not be getting lynched regularly the way they did 50 years ago, but they still put up with a ton of crap. I have black friends who frequently get pulled over because their cars are too nice. Those kinds of things are sickening, but they are nothing compared to someone hanging a noose as a threatening symbol. Anyone making a strong statement about that crap is not just engaging in "PC talk," because the treatment is very real and still happens way too frequently.

You really need to qualify that statement, WhitesChristian Americans of European Ancestory, by and large, have not had to deal with the kind of threats and slights blacks deal with as a matter of course. In many large East Coast cities during the 90's, Asains, particularly Koreans, were targeted for beatings, robberies and arsons by African Americans, by and large. That threatening conduct has now been transfered to Hispanics. Everyday I see, young black males target spanish speaking victims for robberies and beating because they know they can't communicate very well, and are afraid of the courts and police due to immigration issues for themselves or their families. Sikhs, Hindus and many Muslims are targeted by a variety of ethnic Christians for violence. And Christians, both white and black, have demonstrated severe and often violent anti-semitic tendancies over the years.

Due to the history of this country it is fair to consider that African Americans, who are decendants of slavery, are deserving of special regard, but not a the expense of the rights, freedoms and liberities of non blacks. If we won't bend the Constituion for child molestors, rapists and murderers, then certainly African Americans can live within the same framework of civil American society as everyone else. hate speech is speech.

 

[Beaker]

"This is an assault on African Americans and therefore it is an assault on every one of us," President Bollinger said in a statement. "I know I speak on behalf of every member of our communities in condemning this horrible action."

However, if a black had done it to a white, it'd be an isolated incident that would be ignored.
I am so sick of the PC talk.
Assault on every one of us. Yeah, ok.

Blacks are a minority, and throughout this country's history, they have been an oppressed minority. Whites, by and large, have not had to deal with the kind of threats and slights blacks deal with as a matter of course. So his statement is appropriate as far as I am concerned. Blacks deserve special regard, and strong statements from everyone, when something like this happens, because noose and other threatening symbols--which have been on the rise because of this Jena 6 story--rarely if ever target white people. They only target blacks. The day blacks, as a whole, start perpetrating the kind of **** people of other races still perpetrate on blacks every day, I'll accept someone saying, "If a black had done it to a white it would be ignored." I was with a black friend two weekends ago. There were three of us. The black guy, a white woman and me (white, and dorky to boot). We hailed a cab. My black friend stepped forward, opened the back door to the cab, and the driver screeched off with the door open. That kind of **** never happens to me. Blacks may not be getting lynched regularly the way they did 50 years ago, but they still put up with a ton of crap. I have black friends who frequently get pulled over because their cars are too nice. Those kinds of things are sickening, but they are nothing compared to someone hanging a noose as a threatening symbol. Anyone making a strong statement about that crap is not just engaging in "PC talk," because the treatment is very real and still happens way too frequently.

You really need to qualify that statement, WhitesChristian Americans of European Ancestory, by and large, have not had to deal with the kind of threats and slights blacks deal with as a matter of course. In many large East Coast cities during the 90's, Asains, particularly Koreans, were targeted for beatings, robberies and arsons by African Americans, by and large. That threatening conduct has now been transfered to Hispanics. Everyday I see, young black males target spanish speaking victims for robberies and beating because they know they can't communicate very well, and are afraid of the courts and police due to immigration issues for themselves or their families. Sikhs, Hindus and many Muslims are targeted by a variety of ethnic Christians for violence. And Christians, both white and black, have demonstrated severe and often violent anti-semitic tendancies over the years.

Due to the history of this country it is fair to consider that African Americans, who are decendants of slavery, are deserving of special regard, but not a the expense of the rights, freedoms and liberities of non blacks. If we won't bend the Constituion for child molestors, rapists and murderers, then certainly African Americans can live within the same framework of civil American society as everyone else. hate speech is speech.

So you don't condemn the noose hangings?

 

[nafselon]

Only comparing blacks to child molestors, rapists and murderers today eh? Must be softening your stance.

 

[jboy]

You really need to qualify that statement, WhitesChristian Americans of European Ancestory, by and large, have not had to deal with the kind of threats and slights blacks deal with as a matter of course. In many large East Coast cities during the 90's, Asains, particularly Koreans, were targeted for beatings, robberies and arsons by African Americans, by and large. That threatening conduct has now been transfered to Hispanics. Everyday I see, young black males target spanish speaking victims for robberies and beating because they know they can't communicate very well, and are afraid of the courts and police due to immigration issues for themselves or their families. Sikhs, Hindus and many Muslims are targeted by a variety of ethnic Christians for violence. And Christians, both white and black, have demonstrated severe and often violent anti-semitic tendancies over the years.

Due to the history of this country it is fair to consider that African Americans, who are decendants of slavery, are deserving of special regard, but not a the expense of the rights, freedoms and liberities of non blacks. If we won't bend the Constituion for child molestors, rapists and murderers, then certainly African Americans can live within the same framework of civil American society as everyone else. hate speech is speech.

Jesus Christ you're stupid.

However, if a black had done it to a white, it'd be an isolated incident that would be ignored...

Yeah, it would. That's because a noose would mean almost nothing to a white person. It doesn't carry the historical significance to whites.

 

[markvid]

Ragu, that was a wonderful post.
I just have a huge problem with Columbia acting all holier than thou when they let in a dictator whose culture treats females worse than the gum that gets stuck on your shoe.

 

[The Big Ragu]

The only honest thing about most bigots is that you don't really have to do much to expose them. They open their mouths and what they are becomes immediately apparent.

 

[markvid]

The only honest thing about most bigots is that you don't really have to do much to expose them. They open their mouths and what they are becomes immediately apparent.

Absolutely.

 

[boots]

The only honest thing about most bigots is that you don't really have to do much to expose them. They open their mouths and what they are becomes immediately apparent.

That's most bigots. But there are too many closet bigots out there.

 

[Dangerous_K]

Ragu, that was a wonderful post.
I just have a huge problem with Columbia acting all holier than thou when they let in a dictator whose culture treats females worse than the gum that gets stuck on your shoe.

The Ahmadenijad invite was stupid for so, so many reasons. Methinks Bollinger used it just for his 15-minute grandstand.