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Boom_70

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My theory is that the Clinton's have made a concious effort to make the Democrat primaries about race. I find the manner in which our ex prez has been conducting himself has been very unbecoming. It appears others think so also:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/PrintStory.pl?document_id=2004141629&zsection_id=2003956730&slug=apclintonrace23&date=20080123

ON DEADLINE: Clinton Makes Race an Issue

By RON FOURNIER
Associated Press Writer

Bill Clinton says race shouldn't be an issue in the Democratic presidential campaign. Well, then perhaps he should stop talking about it.

The caustic politics of race and gender took center stage in the Democratic race Wednesday as a combative Clinton campaigned on behalf of his wife, New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, and lashed out at the rival Barack Obama campaign and the media for focusing on race.

But it was Clinton himself who dished on the topic when he told an audience in Charleston that he was proud of the Democratic Party for having a woman and a black candidate. In response to a question from a crowd member who asked about "race-baiting" by the media, Clinton said he understands why Obama is drawing support among blacks, who are expected to comprise at least half the primary turnout.
 
Ben_Hecht said:
Meanwhile, women should vote for a woman because she's a woman?

Great.

I think that is part of Clinton plan - they have decided to jettison the black vote and make a push for the womens vote- which they see as a greater # of potential votes.
 
Hillary will get the black vote back in the general election.

The strategy she and Bill are succeeding at is pulling Obama offsides and forcing him to defend himself and take potshots back. Thus taking Obama off message.

That's what some of us hepcats call "getting schooled."
 
Football_Bat said:
Hillary will get the black vote back in the general election.

The strategy she and Bill are succeeding at is pulling Obama offsides and forcing him to defend himself and take potshots back. Thus taking Obama off message.

That's what some of us hepcats call "getting schooled."

yea but it does not make it right. It highlights how disingenuous the Clinton's really are.
 
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Football_Bat said:
Hillary will get the black vote back in the general election.

The strategy she and Bill are succeeding at is pulling Obama offsides and forcing him to defend himself and take potshots back. Thus taking Obama off message.

That's what some of us hepcats call "getting schooled."


Well, yeah. Who are the blacks (as a broad group) going to vote for? Romney? Make me laugh.
 
Ben_Hecht said:
Football_Bat said:
Hillary will get the black vote back in the general election.

The strategy she and Bill are succeeding at is pulling Obama offsides and forcing him to defend himself and take potshots back. Thus taking Obama off message.

That's what some of us hepcats call "getting schooled."


Well, yeah. Who are the blacks (as a broad group) going to vote for? Romney? Make me laugh.
Why not? Romney let the dawgs out!
 
Pastor said:
Ben_Hecht said:
Football_Bat said:
Hillary will get the black vote back in the general election.

The strategy she and Bill are succeeding at is pulling Obama offsides and forcing him to defend himself and take potshots back. Thus taking Obama off message.

That's what some of us hepcats call "getting schooled."


Well, yeah. Who are the blacks (as a broad group) going to vote for? Romney? Make me laugh.
Why not? Romney let the dawgs out!



Barf, barf.
 
Boom_70 said:
Football_Bat said:
Hillary will get the black vote back in the general election.

The strategy she and Bill are succeeding at is pulling Obama offsides and forcing him to defend himself and take potshots back. Thus taking Obama off message.

That's what some of us hepcats call "getting schooled."

yea but it does not make it right. It highlights how disingenuous the Clinton's really are.

Boom, I'll readily grant you that. This race is way too ugly at a time when the Democratic Party needs unity.

But I still believe you have issues with the Clintons that goes way beyond this particular campaign.
 
AlleyAllen said:
But I still believe you have issues with the Clintons that goes way beyond this particular campaign.

Boom = Kenneth Starr
 
I don't know if the Clintons will get as many black votes in the general election as they would have before this all started. It's more likely blacks will stay home and become disenfranchised because the candidate they voted for in the primary got railroaded by bull****.
 
Whatever the rhetoric, why not blame the listeners for once? People, wake up, if you do not like the issues raised by the candidates, tune them out.

Criticizing someone for raising a point which resonates is not getting to the source, the people for which it resonates, blame those people.

Sports writers write about A-Rod and the stripper? Well that's because people want to read that. Don't criticize the messenger, criticize the listeners.
 
The stupid part is that you guys follow this crap, and root for your favorites like it's some sort of Super Bowl.... And every one of these elected officials is leading our country straight down the crapper.

Yay/Boo Team Elephant!
Yay/Boo Team Donkey!
 
poindexter said:
The stupid part is that you guys follow this crap, and root for your favorites like it's some sort of Super Bowl.... And every one of these elected officials is leading our country straight down the crapper.

Yay/Boo Team Elephant!
Yay/Boo Team Donkey!

You guys? To whom are you referring?

And, let's be honest, who the hell else are people going to vote for? Bill the Cat?
 
The funniest thing about all of this is the only way the republicans can win in November is if the Democrats stumble all over themselves and become a laughingstock with bickering and infighting.

They are doing a good job of achieving that goal.
 
http://www.newsweek.com/id/104430

Eleanor Clift suggested the same in today's Newsweek piece:

Campaigning in South Carolina, Bill Clinton accused the media of adopting the Obama campaign's spin by injecting race into the campaign. "Shame on you," he scolded a reporter. The take in Washington is that if anyone was using race for political advantage, it was the Clintons. "It's like Obi-Wan Kenobi yelling at Luke Skywalker because he's using the Force," exclaimed a Democratic senator, astounded by Clinton's audacity. The cynical view is that the Clintons have deliberately tapped into deep-seated racial feelings.
 

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