Is the enemy of our enemy our friend?

[CarltonBanks]

This just disgusts me. What is McCain doing, calling these people his "heroes?"

We probably should have known a little more about these people before we went to help them depose Qadaffi. Both sides screwed this one up. And the racial bent to this situation is worthy of a lot more attention than it is getting.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/15/john-mccain-celebrated-libyan-rebellion-at-site-of-rebels%e2%80%99-public-beheading-videos-show/

 

[wicked]

Yes, we should stand in the way of democracy just because we don't agree with them.

How very democratic of you.

 

[CarltonBanks]

Yes, we should stand in the way of democracy just because we don't agree with them.

How very democratic of you.

Who is saying that? My point is that we should have known who we were offering aid to before we started dropping bombs. They are killing African muslims simply because they are African. Is that democracy?

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

Yes, we should stand in the way of democracy just because we don't agree with them.

How very democratic of you.

Who is saying that? My point is that we should have known who we were offering aid to before we started dropping bombs. They are killing African muslims simply because they are African. Is that democracy?

I thought they were killing them because they are Muslims, which should make the FBI and several on SportsJournalists.com very happy.

 

[CarltonBanks]

Yes, we should stand in the way of democracy just because we don't agree with them.

How very democratic of you.

Who is saying that? My point is that we should have known who we were offering aid to before we started dropping bombs. They are killing African muslims simply because they are African. Is that democracy?

I thought they were killing them because they are Muslims, which should make the FBI and several on SportsJournalists.com very happy.

They are muslims...just a darker shade of brown. They are targeting blacks and using a percieved "loyalty to Qadaffi" as an excuse.

 

[Alma]

This just disgusts me. What is McCain doing, calling these people his "heroes?"

We probably should have known a little more about these people before we went to help them depose Qadaffi. Both sides screwed this one up. And the racial bent to this situation is worthy of a lot more attention than it is getting.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/15/john-mccain-celebrated-libyan-rebellion-at-site-of-rebels%e2%80%99-public-beheading-videos-show/

Ask Angola.

 

[Alma]

Even better: Ask the Taliban. Ask Iraq.

 

[CarltonBanks]

Even better: Ask the Taliban. Ask Iraq.

Yep

 

[Baron Scicluna]

We have a past history of supporting rebels who hold public executions

(NSFW, and Not Safe if you are sensistive)

http://www.custermen.com/ItalyWW2/ILDUCE/Mussolini.htm

 

[printdust]

You know, beheadings is just a bloodier, more archaic way to do what we do with lethal injection. Same end result. Only in Libya, the terrorist sons have a neat new soccer ball to kick in the streets.

 

[Armchair_QB]

This just disgusts me. What is McCain doing, calling these people his "heroes?"

We probably should have known a little more about these people before we went to help them depose Qadaffi. Both sides screwed this one up. And the racial bent to this situation is worthy of a lot more attention than it is getting.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/15/john-mccain-celebrated-libyan-rebellion-at-site-of-rebels%e2%80%99-public-beheading-videos-show/

Ask Angola.

Unavailable for comment. She's still frustrated over Fidel Castro pulling out.

 

[Brooklyn Bridge]

This just disgusts me. What is McCain doing, calling these people his "heroes?"

We probably should have known a little more about these people before we went to help them depose Qadaffi. Both sides screwed this one up. And the racial bent to this situation is worthy of a lot more attention than it is getting.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/15/john-mccain-celebrated-libyan-rebellion-at-site-of-rebels%e2%80%99-public-beheading-videos-show/

Ask Angola.

Unavailable for comment. She's still frustrated over Fidel Castro pulling out.

We can also cull old articles from some politician calling Saddam Hussein a hero for fighting Iran, Pinochet a hero for fighting communists, or any number of despots we have supported in the past to suit our own needs.

 

[CarltonBanks]

This just disgusts me. What is McCain doing, calling these people his "heroes?"

We probably should have known a little more about these people before we went to help them depose Qadaffi. Both sides screwed this one up. And the racial bent to this situation is worthy of a lot more attention than it is getting.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/15/john-mccain-celebrated-libyan-rebellion-at-site-of-rebels%e2%80%99-public-beheading-videos-show/

Ask Angola.

Unavailable for comment. She's still frustrated over Fidel Castro pulling out.

We can also cull old articles from some politician calling Saddam Hussein a hero for fighting Iran, Pinochet a hero for fighting communists, or any number of despots we have supported in the past to suit our own needs.

That isn't the point. The point is that we rushed into Libya. Seems for all the talk of rushing into war recently, what we did in Libya would be looked at with a similar attitude. Glad Qadaffi is gone from power, but what are we going to do about this random killing that is going on now? Random killing, I might add, by the side we backed.

 

[wicked]

On another note, the Cameron-Sarkozy victory lap around Tripoli smacks richly of that "Mission: Accomplished" speech. All they needed was a Harrier to drop them off in the main square in Tripoli.

 

[Armchair_QB]

This just disgusts me. What is McCain doing, calling these people his "heroes?"

We probably should have known a little more about these people before we went to help them depose Qadaffi. Both sides screwed this one up. And the racial bent to this situation is worthy of a lot more attention than it is getting.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/15/john-mccain-celebrated-libyan-rebellion-at-site-of-rebels%e2%80%99-public-beheading-videos-show/

Ask Angola.

Unavailable for comment. She's still frustrated over Fidel Castro pulling out.

We can also cull old articles from some politician calling Saddam Hussein a hero for fighting Iran, Pinochet a hero for fighting communists, or any number of despots we have supported in the past to suit our own needs.

That isn't the point. The point is that we rushed into Libya. Seems for all the talk of rushing into war recently, what we did in Libya would be looked at with a similar attitude. Glad Qadaffi is gone from power, but what are we going to do about this random killing that is going on now? Random killing, I might add, by the side we backed.

 

[Stitch]

This just disgusts me. What is McCain doing, calling these people his "heroes?"

We probably should have known a little more about these people before we went to help them depose Qadaffi. Both sides screwed this one up. And the racial bent to this situation is worthy of a lot more attention than it is getting.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/15/john-mccain-celebrated-libyan-rebellion-at-site-of-rebels%e2%80%99-public-beheading-videos-show/

Ask Angola.

Unavailable for comment. She's still frustrated over Fidel Castro pulling out.

We can also cull old articles from some politician calling Saddam Hussein a hero for fighting Iran, Pinochet a hero for fighting communists, or any number of despots we have supported in the past to suit our own needs.

That isn't the point. The point is that we rushed into Libya. Seems for all the talk of rushing into war recently, what we did in Libya would be looked at with a similar attitude. Glad Qadaffi is gone from power, but what are we going to do about this random killing that is going on now? Random killing, I might add, by the side we backed.

So you're saying our foreign policy is dictated by realism? Kissinger and Morgenthau are shocked.

 

[Inky_Wretch]

This just disgusts me. What is McCain doing, calling these people his "heroes?"

We probably should have known a little more about these people before we went to help them depose Qadaffi. Both sides screwed this one up. And the racial bent to this situation is worthy of a lot more attention than it is getting.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/15/john-mccain-celebrated-libyan-rebellion-at-site-of-rebels%e2%80%99-public-beheading-videos-show/

Ask Angola.

Unavailable for comment. She's still frustrated over Fidel Castro pulling out.

We can also cull old articles from some politician calling Saddam Hussein a hero for fighting Iran, Pinochet a hero for fighting communists, or any number of despots we have supported in the past to suit our own needs.

Or Reagan arming the future Taliban and some guy named Osama bin Laden so they could fight off the evil Soviets in Afghanistan.

 

[suburbia]

This just disgusts me. What is McCain doing, calling these people his "heroes?"

We probably should have known a little more about these people before we went to help them depose Qadaffi. Both sides screwed this one up. And the racial bent to this situation is worthy of a lot more attention than it is getting.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/15/john-mccain-celebrated-libyan-rebellion-at-site-of-rebels%e2%80%99-public-beheading-videos-show/

Ask Angola.

Unavailable for comment. She's still frustrated over Fidel Castro pulling out.

We can also cull old articles from some politician calling Saddam Hussein a hero for fighting Iran, Pinochet a hero for fighting communists, or any number of despots we have supported in the past to suit our own needs.

That isn't the point. The point is that we rushed into Libya. Seems for all the talk of rushing into war recently, what we did in Libya would be looked at with a similar attitude. Glad Qadaffi is gone from power, but what are we going to do about this random killing that is going on now? Random killing, I might add, by the side we backed.

For that matter, we may have a similar problem in Egypt. Yes, Mubarak was a dictator and it's commendable that the Egyptian people were able to rise up and topple him with relatively little bloodshed (certainly less than we've seen in Libya). But the regime that replaces Mubarak, even if Democratically elected, could very easily be hostile to Israel and the United States.

 

[CarltonBanks]

This just disgusts me. What is McCain doing, calling these people his "heroes?"

We probably should have known a little more about these people before we went to help them depose Qadaffi. Both sides screwed this one up. And the racial bent to this situation is worthy of a lot more attention than it is getting.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/15/john-mccain-celebrated-libyan-rebellion-at-site-of-rebels%e2%80%99-public-beheading-videos-show/

Ask Angola.

Unavailable for comment. She's still frustrated over Fidel Castro pulling out.

We can also cull old articles from some politician calling Saddam Hussein a hero for fighting Iran, Pinochet a hero for fighting communists, or any number of despots we have supported in the past to suit our own needs.

That isn't the point. The point is that we rushed into Libya. Seems for all the talk of rushing into war recently, what we did in Libya would be looked at with a similar attitude. Glad Qadaffi is gone from power, but what are we going to do about this random killing that is going on now? Random killing, I might add, by the side we backed.

For that matter, we may have a similar problem in Egypt. Yes, Mubarak was a dictator and it's commendable that the Egyptian people were able to rise up and topple him with relatively little bloodshed (certainly less than we've seen in Libya). But the regime that replaces Mubarak, even if Democratically elected, could very easily be hostile to Israel and the United States.

I know. We had the whole "devil you know vs. the devil you don't know" debate at the time, and it still rings true. Libya wasn't Obama's fault entirely...yes it sucked the way he chose to authorize force, but it was UN backed and I don't remember anyone whining about how it should not have been done. As long as American troops aren't on the ground getting shot at I do have to say we are better off as a world with Qudaffi out of power (same as with Saddam Hussein out of power). However, it seems like human rights violations are pretty commonplace over there now...and the ones we backed are the ones killing people because they happen to be black.

That is one thing I am happy I never have to deal with...making decisions on how to move forward in the Middle East. Our next president has his (or her) hands full. And what frustrates me is that there has been NO discussion on foreign policy in any of the Republican debates. I want to know what everyone thinks before I decide on who to support.

 

[wicked]

President McCain would have gone in there guns ablazin' (anyone see his visit to Tripoli the other day, praising the so-called Islamists?) and this whole situation would have come up six months earlier.

Instead we've now at least had some time to get intel on these people, so we're not going in with a total blank slate. And it's given the transitional government time to, you know, govern.