Inherited runner by starting pitcher

[Ores]

Hi my name is Ores
This is my ist post
Starting pitcher leaves the game with runner on first base. One out in the top of 8th, next pitcher on pickoff attempt sends the inherited runner to 3rd.
Next batter hits a ball to 3rd and that runner is out at plate (fielder's choice)
Two outs game is 0-0 now , opposing team scores 2 runs in 8th. Game ends 4-1.. starting pitcher is charged with an earned run eventhough his runner out at plate, also charged with a loss?
Go figure what person came uo with this ruling!!

 

[Songbird]

ist bin ein SJ'er.

 

[Chef2]

****ing Beej.

 

[cisforkoke]

Ores spelled backward is Sero.

 

[Moderator1]

Not quite sure I follow - but if the only runner the starter had on was out at the plate, that means another pitcher put on the runners who scored. Starter should get a no decision.
Or maybe this is all a dream

 

[Vombatus]

Or a bad ruling by the official scorer.

 

[cisforkoke]

I think the official scorer has a low intangibles score in the RAW rating.

 

[justgladtobehere]

If I understand the situation correctly, there is a certain logic to giving the first run to the starting pitcher. The batter who scored the first run was on base only because the fielder threw out the inherited runner instead of the batter. Reverse that choice and the run is the starter's. The logic fails a bit when you consider the runner at third was there because of the reliever.

All that assumes that the guy on first when the starter left would have scored without the error on the pickoff and whatever happened after.

 

[Songbird]

I'm going to assume the relief pitcher came in after the starter began a count against the batter preceding the botched pickoff and that the starter's batter -- whio remained at the plate after the botched attempt -- reached on the fielder's choice and scored the first run, which would have gone to the starting pitcher.

Otherwise, I don't know.

 

[Vombatus]

I'm going to assume the relief pitcher came in after the starter began a count against the batter preceding the botched pickoff and that the starter's batter -- whio remained at the plate after the botched attempt -- reached on the fielder's choice and scored the first run, which would have gone to the starting pitcher.

Otherwise, I don't know.

Good. Most logical answer.

 

[Shropshire Slasher]

When a pitcher leaves a game and a runner that he's responsible for is subsequently erased on a fielder's choice, the first pitcher's responsibility reverts to the next runner back.

That's how Pitcher A can be charged with a run even though that run reached base off Pitcher B.

 

[Songbird]

the responsibility for that runner reverts to the next runner back.

???

 

[User 11148]

Way back when, on occasion I would get some small amount (say, $20) to serve as official scorer for AA games. This discussion, revealing my total ignorance of the nuances of scoring, suggests that I was wildly overpaid for such.

 

[LongTimeListener]

When a pitcher leaves a game and a runner that he's responsible for is subsequently erased on a fielder's choice, the first pitcher's responsibility reverts to the next runner back.

That's how Pitcher A can be charged with a run even though that run reached base off Pitcher B.

Yep. MLB Rule 10.16(g): "When pitchers are changed during an inning, the official scorer shall not charge the relief pitcher with any run (earned or unearned) scored by a runner who was on base at the time such relief pitcher entered the game, nor for runs scored by any runner who reaches base on a fielder's choice that puts out a runner left on base by any preceding pitcher."

 

[swingline]

This is like manky x JDV divided by Canadian math.