Idaho trooper harasses old man due to Colorado license plate (with video)

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The officer then asks him, "Why are you so worried about me if you're not violating any laws of the state or this country - why are you so concerned about me?" Roseen responds, "Because I want to get on the road and just get home."

The officer then tells him, "OK, well, I'm telling you with what I'm seeing today, that is not going to happen. Because I believe that you have something in this vehicle that you shouldn't have. … You're obviously nervous about whatever it is. … I am going to find whatever it is, I can assure you of that."

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/04/12/3130740/troopers-camera-yields-details.html?sp=/99/101/102/
 
That's some great stuff, DeskMonkey ... dug up by a really good reporter.

We really know how to roll out the welcome mat in the Gem State.

Up here in the panhandle, the Idaho State Police are very aggressive about targeting drug trafficking on I-90, a 70-mile span of interstate highway between marijuana-legal Washington and medical marijuana-legal Montana.

There's a short stretch of 55 mph highway on I-90 in Idaho, and usually speeding or some other dinky moving violation is enough to prompt a pull-over which leads to a big drug bust.

If they're targeting every car with Washington plates and drivers who look like they dig pot ... well, they're going to have to hire more state troopers. :P
 
Was there ever a time when cops actually served and protected, or is that just a huge myth like "liberty and justice for all"?
 
Actually been out there for a couple of weeks.

http://kdvr.com/2014/03/28/colorado-man-files-suit-idaho-state-police-accused-of-license-plate-profiling/

Sports radio host (and former NFL player) Alfred Williams said on the air yesterday that when he drove to Houston a couple of days ago, he was pulled over twice and was told it was because cops were running a marijuana sting in the area.

Kansas is notorious for license plate profiling.

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2013/03/marijuana_profiling_colorado_kansas.php
 
Double J said:
Was there ever a time when cops actually served and protected, or is that just a huge myth like "liberty and justice for all"?

I have actually been thinking of how to tell my kids to handle traffic stops, which they will probably be experiencing in the not-too-distant future. "Do what the cop says and everything will be OK" doesn't seem like very good advice anymore.
 
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I was hesitant to post this for the "Oh, you're just looking for examples" reaction from the pro-cop side but I was disturbed by the "(you going home) isn't going to happen because I believe you have something" line.

This guy is truly lucky the trooper didn't just plant something because he had his feeling hurt when he didn't find something
 
LongTimeListener said:
Double J said:
Was there ever a time when cops actually served and protected, or is that just a huge myth like "liberty and justice for all"?

I have actually been thinking of how to tell my kids to handle traffic stops, which they will probably be experiencing in the not-too-distant future. "Do what the cop says and everything will be OK" doesn't seem like very good advice anymore.

Teach them their rights and to be polite, but firm. Provide your name, license, registration and answer the basic question about where you're headed, where you were going. Politely decline anything further, whether its a search or additional questioning.
 
LongTimeListener said:
Double J said:
Was there ever a time when cops actually served and protected, or is that just a huge myth like "liberty and justice for all"?

I have actually been thinking of how to tell my kids to handle traffic stops, which they will probably be experiencing in the not-too-distant future. "Do what the cop says and everything will be OK" doesn't seem like very good advice anymore.

You mean all parents need to have, "The Talk," with their kids?
 
MileHigh said:
Actually been out there for a couple of weeks.

http://kdvr.com/2014/03/28/colorado-man-files-suit-idaho-state-police-accused-of-license-plate-profiling/

Sports radio host (and former NFL player) Alfred Williams said on the air yesterday that when he drove to Houston a couple of days ago, he was pulled over twice and was told it was because cops were running a marijuana sting in the area.

Kansas is notorious for license plate profiling.

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2013/03/marijuana_profiling_colorado_kansas.php

If you have an out-of-state plate (especially in Illinois) and you're driving in Wisconsin in the summer, watch your speeding ass, because the cops there are eager as hell to pull you over.
 
I Should Coco said:
That's some great stuff, DeskMonkey ... dug up by a really good reporter.

We really know how to roll out the welcome mat in the Gem State.

Up here in the panhandle, the Idaho State Police are very aggressive about targeting drug trafficking on I-90, a 70-mile span of interstate highway between marijuana-legal Washington and medical marijuana-legal Montana.

There's a short stretch of 55 mph highway on I-90 in Idaho, and usually speeding or some other dinky moving violation is enough to prompt a pull-over which leads to a big drug bust.

If they're targeting every car with Washington plates and drivers who look like they dig pot ... well, they're going to have to hire more state troopers. :P

Can't say as I'm surprised. I used to make regular trips to Boise from eastern Oregon (it had the only Borders for a couple hundred miles) and consistently had Idaho troopers tailing me even though I was under the speed limit, not swerving and had all my lights in good working order.

Anything to keep the state coffers topped up, I suppose.
 
YankeeFan said:
LongTimeListener said:
Double J said:
Was there ever a time when cops actually served and protected, or is that just a huge myth like "liberty and justice for all"?

I have actually been thinking of how to tell my kids to handle traffic stops, which they will probably be experiencing in the not-too-distant future. "Do what the cop says and everything will be OK" doesn't seem like very good advice anymore.

You mean all parents need to have, "The Talk," with their kids?

Ha.

It seems like a legitimate new concern these days, especially with drug laws varying from state to state. What's legal in California might not be legal once you cross into Nevada or Arizona (but it sure as **** would be legal in Oregon).
 
I'd be fine with cops in my area profiling everyone from Maryland. They're all ****ing idiots, and there's a 99 percent chance they're doing something stupid at any given time.
 
Never, ever agree to a search. And if you're told to get out of your vehicle, lock it behind you.

There's a long video that I saw several years ago about what to do — and what not to do — if you're stopped by the police. I don't have the link, but it's about 45 minutes long, giving you examples of how to handle one.

**** Tha Police [N.W.A.]
 
LongTimeListener said:
Double J said:
Was there ever a time when cops actually served and protected, or is that just a huge myth like "liberty and justice for all"?

I have actually been thinking of how to tell my kids to handle traffic stops, which they will probably be experiencing in the not-too-distant future. "Do what the cop says and everything will be OK" doesn't seem like very good advice anymore.

May I suggest a "Get Out of Jail Free" card?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgJd-BI1JYY (starts at 2:30 mark)
 
franticscribe said:
LongTimeListener said:
Double J said:
Was there ever a time when cops actually served and protected, or is that just a huge myth like "liberty and justice for all"?

I have actually been thinking of how to tell my kids to handle traffic stops, which they will probably be experiencing in the not-too-distant future. "Do what the cop says and everything will be OK" doesn't seem like very good advice anymore.

Teach them their rights and to be polite, but firm. Provide your name, license, registration and answer the basic question about where you're headed, where you were going. Politely decline anything further, whether its a search or additional questioning.
Why is it anyone's business where you're going? What kind of answer does the cop think is coming, "Well, officer, I have a meeting with a couple of guys in 10 minutes; we were going to knock off those three banks down next to the interstate."
 
Driving through Connecticut (more so) or Rhode Island with New York or Massachusetts place will also invite scrutiny. (The two minutes your in New Hampshire going from Boston to Portland is also treacherous.)

But, isn't a lot of this because they figure you won't show up in court to fight the charges? It's an easy payday for the state. It also doesn't **** off any voter, who might complain to the local elected officials. Total freebie. Raise money, without consequences from out-of-staters.
 
Anybody see this from former MLB player, and current media member, Doug Glanville:

It was an otherwise ordinary snow day in Hartford, Connecticut, and I was laughing as I headed outside to shovel my driveway. I’d spent the morning scrambling around, trying to stay ahead of my three children’s rising housebound energy, and once my shovel hit the snow, I thought about how my wife had been urging me to buy a snowblower. I hadn’t felt an urgent need. Whenever it got ridiculously blizzard-like, I hired a snow removal service. And on many occasions, I came outside to find that our next door neighbor had already cleared my driveway for me.

Never mind that our neighbor was an empty-nester in his late 60s with a replaced hip, and I was a former professional ballplayer in his early 40s. I kept telling myself I had to permanently flip the script and clear his driveway. But not today. I had to focus on making sure we could get our car out for school the next morning. My wife was at a Black History Month event with our older two kids. The snow had finally stopped coming down and this was my mid-afternoon window of opportunity.

Just as I was good-naturedly turning all this over in my mind, my smile disappeared.

A police officer from West Hartford had pulled up across the street, exited his vehicle, and begun walking in my direction. I noted the strangeness of his being in Hartford—an entirely separate town with its own police force—so I thought he needed help. He approached me with purpose, and then, without any introduction or explanation he asked, “So, you trying to make a few extra bucks, shoveling people’s driveways around here?”

All of my homeowner confidence suddenly seemed like an illusion.


http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/04/i-was-racially-profiled-in-my-own-driveway/360615/
 

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