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Memphis radio hosts goes AWOL on GOP candidate on radio interview ...

Matthews quickly became upset with Bergmann when she wouldn't answer directly about any affiliation with the Tea Party. Then he launched into a 16-minute argument filled with curse words and accusations that added up to her being too close to whites and not really having the interest of the black community in mind. Eventually, Bergmann bowed out of the conversation, and that's when Matthews really let her have it -- not only did he accuse her of being a "token negro" for whites, but he also slipped in references about Martin Luther King and even refused to shake her hand because he was afraid her "whiteness" would rub off on him.

http://news.yahoo.com/radio-host-loses-female-gop-candidate-stupid-m-164432955.html
 
awol? not that i saw. aside from that, i'm not sure i've ever seen a bigger **** than that guy.
 
On the subject of whiteness...
I have for some time now thought about starting a thread to ask some informed posters to tell me why and how the hoops rosters at Indiana and Wisconsin are usually filled with so many white players.
Is there some sort of recruiting mandate or push by the backers of those programs to not sign as many players of color?
And I'm being serious, I've really wanted to have this discussion among this board, where probably more than a few people could shed some light.
And I don't want this to come off as racial or anything close. I am curious. No smart-ass responses, please.
Iowa does it, too, but not so much.
If you look, Indiana State and Iowa State and Purdue and many of the other state schools in Wisconsin don't seem to have such a makeup.
Anybody got light to shed?
 
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I'm thinking it's a Big 10 thing, because I watched the second half of Northwestern-Nebraska the other night (well, it was on for background noise while I read), and I noticed the NW had four white guys on the floor most of the game. I agree, it is a little curious.
 
Curious indeed. But I think it is partly tradition and partly that there are so many good white players in the midwest. I think Indiana and Wisconsin take pride in appearing as the overachieving/scrappy team, and those players fit the mold. Grab a few white sharpshooters/tough defenders, fill in a couple of stars here and there and see what happens. Or something.
 
Ahhh yahh, those scrappy, hard-working, hustling, fundamentally sound "coach on the floor" types.



As opposed to the other guys, who ... uhhh ... aren't.
 
Blitz said:
On the subject of whiteness...
I have for some time now thought about starting a thread to ask some informed posters to tell me why and how the hoops rosters at Indiana and Wisconsin are usually filled with so many white players.
Is there some sort of recruiting mandate or push by the backers of those programs to not sign as many players of color?
And I'm being serious, I've really wanted to have this discussion among this board, where probably more than a few people could shed some light.
And I don't want this to come off as racial or anything close. I am curious. No smart-ass responses, please.
Iowa does it, too, but not so much.
If you look, Indiana State and Iowa State and Purdue and many of the other state schools in Wisconsin don't seem to have such a makeup.
Anybody got light to shed?

Demographics.
 
See. I don't get the demographics thing because most schools don't field teams made up of people only from their respective cities.
Most programs go so far as to recruit outside state lines, and as I said, most all the other schools on the D-I level from around Wisconsin or Indiana field teams with at least as many and often more, blacks than whites.
And Indiana/Wisconsin both have won many games with those types of teams.
I've just never understood if it was mandated internally or something along those lines.
Because every year, that's the makeup of those teams.
 
Most kids stay close to home. Most schools recruit mostly close to home. Exceptions? Yes, plenty. No one is saying there are no black players in the Big 10. But to the extent that there are fewer, it's because of -- wait for it -- demographics.

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Point of Order said:
Most kids stay close to home. Most schools recruit mostly close to home. Exceptions? Yes, plenty. No one is saying there are no black players in the Big 10. But to the extent that there are fewer, it's because of -- wait for it -- demographics.

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Indiana hasn't been limited to in-state or regional recruiting since Branch McCracken came to town.
 
That's a fascinating graphic. 12 years old, but still. Wonder how much it's changed.
 
North Dakota's men's basketball team only has four of us/them (depending on your point of view).
Checked Montana's team, but got distracted by the "win $500 worth of beef" contest.
 
Bob Knight was once feted for being a guy who could win with a largely Caucasian team. But, when asked about it, he simply said "anybody can play basketball -- black, white, blue, green."

Bo Ryan's style tends to favor good 3-point shooters and big, strong post players -- the type of guys you might find in Wisconsin, and at the risk of sterotyping, guys who play positions that are (stereotypically) seen as ones white guys play. Northwestern uses the Princeton offense, which relies more on ballhandling and shooting ability (and to a degree, craftiness), and always seems to have about 3 Europeans on the floor.

But, in large part, I sense this to be a big of a misnomer. Indiana was always seen under Bob Knight as a primarily white team, because he always seemed to have a Steve Eyl/Todd Meier/Todd Jadlow out there to set picks or a guy like Steve Alford or Pat Graham to shoot 3-pointers. The majority of Tom Crean's recruiting classes have featured African-American players, and next year's will, too. Of the 8 guys I know of who have verbaled or signed for the next 3 years, all but one are African-American. Wisconsin always seems to have a big white post player with a last name I'd associate with being from Wisconsin, but their leading scorers are almost always black players.
 
That is indeed an interesting graphic and I sincerely appreciate all the input on this topic, because I've always wondered about it.
I would not doubt that Tom Crean might go out and sign some diverse players in the here and now, but my questioning is about the Wisky and IU rosters of past seasons, leading up to 2012-13.

It's just really been intriguing to watch, and again, there have been some really accomplished teams at both of those schools through the years.
 

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