Hillary cancels appearances - or not

[Moderator1]

I hate political threads and I really hate starting a new one, yet here I am - I figure if this means what I think it means it can stand by itself.

Hillary has cancelled her talk show appearances and other public appearances today. That signals to me the towel is about to be tossed in. Am I reading too much into it?

Are we set for November?

 

[dooley_womack1]

Re: Hillary cancels appearances

The Democrats should hope that's the case. All the same, does anyone else feel odd that the Dem nomination will be decided without two large blocs of delegates being seated? To me, it's the same as having a presidential election without counting Florida's and Michigan's electoral votes. Yeah, I know the states bucked the party's wishes, but just sayin'

 

[zagoshe]

Re: Hillary cancels appearances

She is campaigning in West Virgnia today so that is a sign that, sadly, the ego trip will continue.....

And for all the bull**** talk about "we raised 10 million in the night after Pa." here we come to find out Hillary loaned her campaign 6.4 million in the past month, which means she has been on life support longer than anyone will admit but she has pressed on simply to feed her ego.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Re: Hillary cancels appearances

MSNBC just said the "no appearances" thing isn't true.

 

[Double Down]

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I'm getting real tired of people acting like she won Michigan. If you want to seat Florida, well ****, I guess we can talk about that. It's still bull****, but we can talk about it.

But let's stop pretending that she won Michigan. She did not. He wasn't even on the ballot. And she still barely got 50 percent of the vote. For Christ's sake, why in the world do people think she should just be able to put all those votes on her side of the ledger, while he puts zero on his?

 

[Moderator1]

Re: Hillary cancels appearances

That's what I get for trusting my former paper!!

http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/news.apx.-content-articles-RTD-2008-05-07-0210.html

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Re: Hillary cancels appearances

You left and the truth went out of the place, mods.

 

[Moderator1]

Re: Hillary cancels appearances

Sad, isn't it?

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

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Yeah, but the truth doesn't move units, dude.

 

[cranberry]

Re: Hillary cancels appearances

The Democrats should hope that's the case. All the same, does anyone else feel odd that the Dem nomination will be decided without two large blocs of delegates being seated? To me, it's the same as having a presidential election without counting Florida's and Michigan's electoral votes. Yeah, I know the states bucked the party's wishes, but just sayin'

It makes me sick to think Democrats in Michigan and Florida won't be represented in a primary year that, due to the war and the economy, takes on tremendous significance. State party leaders let their constituents down badly and should pay a heavy price but somehow people in these states should be allowed their vote.

 

[spinning27]

Re: Hillary cancels appearances

I'm getting real tired of people acting like she won Michigan. If you want to seat Florida, well ****, I guess we can talk about that. It's still bull****, but we can talk about it.

But let's stop pretending that she won Michigan. She did not. He wasn't even on the ballot. And she still barely got 50 percent of the vote. For Christ's sake, why in the world do people think she should just be able to put all those votes on her side of the ledger, while he puts zero on his?

Wait a minute...Hillary 55-Uncommitted 45 was a huge victory for her.

 

[andyouare?]

Re: Hillary cancels appearances

The Democrats should hope that's the case. All the same, does anyone else feel odd that the Dem nomination will be decided without two large blocs of delegates being seated? To me, it's the same as having a presidential election without counting Florida's and Michigan's electoral votes. Yeah, I know the states bucked the party's wishes, but just sayin'

It makes me sick to think Democrats in Michigan and Florida won't be represented in a primary year that, due to the war and the economy, takes on tremendous significance. State party leaders let their constituents down badly and should pay a heavy price but somehow people in these states should be allowed their vote.

How about they just dole out the Florida delegates based on the percentage of votes and then split Michigan 50-50.

Or does that make too much sense?

 

[zagoshe]

Re: Hillary cancels appearances

The Democrats should hope that's the case. All the same, does anyone else feel odd that the Dem nomination will be decided without two large blocs of delegates being seated? To me, it's the same as having a presidential election without counting Florida's and Michigan's electoral votes. Yeah, I know the states bucked the party's wishes, but just sayin'

It makes me sick to think Democrats in Michigan and Florida won't be represented in a primary year that, due to the war and the economy, takes on tremendous significance. State party leaders let their constituents down badly and should pay a heavy price but somehow people in these states should be allowed their vote.

As I posted on the other thread.......

If you add Michigan and Florida -- regardless of how you feel about it -- HILLARY IS STILL BEHIND IN THE POPULAR VOTE BY ABOUT 200,000 votes, which given the fact that they will likely split the last six primaries means he can't be caught.

And if you give her 60 percent of the delegates from those two states and 40 percent to him -- a ridiculuosly high number but play along -- she is still behind in the delegate count by roughly 100 -- an insurmountable deficit to overcome.

This whole Florida/Michigan argument is ridiculous because even with those two states added in and generously in her favor -- SHE.STILL.CAN'T. WIN.

The argument by her supporters is the equivalent of Houston Oilers fans whining about Mike Renfro's apparent touchdown catch against the Steelers in the 1980 AFC championship game being overturned and called incomplete -- you want that damn touchdown to count? I say, take it -- you still lose 27-20 so now you can go back to where you came from and STFU..........

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

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That split is what's going to happen, I think, or something like it.
The Obama people are now in a position to be magnanimous about it.

 

[Batman]

Re: Hillary cancels appearances

The Democrats should hope that's the case. All the same, does anyone else feel odd that the Dem nomination will be decided without two large blocs of delegates being seated? To me, it's the same as having a presidential election without counting Florida's and Michigan's electoral votes. Yeah, I know the states bucked the party's wishes, but just sayin'

It makes me sick to think Democrats in Michigan and Florida won't be represented in a primary year that, due to the war and the economy, takes on tremendous significance. State party leaders let their constituents down badly and should pay a heavy price but somehow people in these states should be allowed their vote.

As I posted on the other thread.......

If you add Michigan and Florida -- regardless of how you feel about it -- HILLARY IS STILL BEHIND IN THE POPULAR VOTE BY ABOUT 200,000 votes, which given the fact that they will likely split the last six primaries means he can't be caught.

And if you give her 60 percent of the delegates from those two states and 40 percent to him -- a ridiculuosly high number but play along -- she is still behind in the delegate count by roughly 100 -- an insurmountable deficit to overcome.

This whole Florida/Michigan argument is ridiculous because even with those two states added in and generously in her favor -- SHE.STILL.CAN'T. WIN.

The argument by her supporters is the equivalent of Houston Oilers fans whining about Mike Renfro's apparent touchdown catch against the Steelers in the 1980 AFC championship game being overturned and called incomplete -- you want that damn touchdown to count? I say, take it -- you still lose 27-20 so now you can go back to where you came from and STFU..........

Or Al Gore's supporters in 2000.

 

[alleyallen]

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You left and the truth went out of the place, mods.

Sad, isn't it?

Not to threadjack, but that is one of the most entertaining and ... sadly ... enlightening set of posts I've seen in a while.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Re: Hillary cancels appearances

You left and the truth went out of the place, mods.

Sad, isn't it?

Not to threadjack, but that is one of the most entertaining and ... sadly ... enlightening set of posts I've seen in a while.

Little Man' s looking like he just got the cal from Jack O'Connell about Cooperstown.

 

[Ben_Hecht]

Re: Hillary cancels appearances

That split is what's going to happen, I think, or something like it.
The Obama people are now in a position to be magnanimous about it.

The Obama people have seen this denouement coming, for quite a while.

Those on the other side have been suffering from blurred vision vis a vis this
aspect of the Kampf.

 

[trifectarich]

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Cranberry: Give me a fair way to count Florida and Michigan delegates at the convention and I'm all for it. But at this point, it absolutely cannot be done.

 

[Moderator1]

Re: Hillary cancels appearances

The story is now off my old paper's Web site and replaced by one detailing the loan to her campaign.