High school wrestling referee grabs kid by the throat (with video)

[Smallpotatoes]

http://www.tecumsehherald.com/node/3324#comments

Supposedly, the kid went after his opponent after the whitsle or something like that. The ref seemed a little out of control, however.

 

[imjustagirl]

Hey, it's his mat.

 

[Smallpotatoes]

Hey, it's his mat.

Yeah, I think he made that pretty clear.

 

[fishhack2009]

Good grief.

 

[Baron Scicluna]

Dangerous Danny Davis wonders what the fuss is all about.

 

[93Devil]

I would love to see the 10 seconds added to the beginning of this, but putting your hands on a kid is never a good idea.

 

[User 4332]

Regardless of what happened beforehand, I'm impressed with the way the kid handled it just taking the ref's hand off his throat.

I don't think I would've reacted that coolly if a ref had ever done that to me on the mat.

 

[Double J]

What would Louden Swain have done?

 

[93Devil]

Regardless of what happened beforehand, I'm impressed with the way the kid handled it just taking the ref's hand off his throat.

I don't think I would've reacted that coolly if a ref had ever done that to me on the mat.

Not defending the ref, but I don't think that kid is a perfect angel in all of this.

 

[Mooninite]

Certainly the referee should have kept his cool but again not seeing what the kid did to elicit such a response I wouldn't be quick to condemn him.

 

[RickStain]

Certainly the referee should have kept his cool but again not seeing what the kid did to elicit such a response I wouldn't be quick to condemn him.

I would. Doesn't matter what the kid did, you don't get to grab his throat. That guy should be done reffing, permanently.

 

[Ace]

It looked like he was putting pressure on the left side of the throat more than choking him or anything, though.

More like a pressure point move to get the kid's attention and move him back.

If it was my kid, I would not be bent out of shape about it. It's important in wrestling that kids follow the orders of the officials.

 

[Point of Order]

Ref has good stage presence, projects well, great gesticulations... good pro wrestler material.

 

[93Devil]

Certainly the referee should have kept his cool but again not seeing what the kid did to elicit such a response I wouldn't be quick to condemn him.

If he didn't do anything, the person filming it would not have edited it out.

I lurked some other message boards, and I guess it was a heated match, and the "choked" kid started to go after the other kid after a break.

Also, why was the head coach not at this match?

The ref was wrong. If his hand was six inches lower, we probably would not even have this thread, but it was not, and that will probably cost him his reffing career.

 

[RickStain]

If the kid went after another kid, then his season should be over, at least. Maybe all his seasons.

 

[93Devil]

If the kid went after another kid, then his season should be over, at least. Maybe all his seasons.

Is pushing and shoving after the whistle common in high school wrestling?

 

[RickStain]

If the kid went after another kid, then his season should be over, at least. Maybe all his seasons.

Is pushing and shoving after the whistle common in high school wrestling?

I've covered maybe a dozen matches, never seen it. But I'd say there's a difference between pushing when you happen to be close to one another right after the whistle, and "going after," so I'd guess we'd have to know exactly what was done.

 

[User 4332]

Regardless of what happened beforehand, I'm impressed with the way the kid handled it just taking the ref's hand off his throat.

I don't think I would've reacted that coolly if a ref had ever done that to me on the mat.

Not defending the ref, but I don't think that kid is a perfect angel in all of this.

I doubt the kid is an angel, too. It sounds like he went after his opponent after action had stopped and a whistle had been blown. If that's the case the kid was clearly in the wrong and should've been penalized for it; depending on how bad it was, even tossed.

But there's no justification for the ref putting his hand up around the kid's throat. I am still surprised at how calm the kid stayed at that point. I wonder if he was just shocked the ref was coming at him.

 

[User 4332]

If the kid went after another kid, then his season should be over, at least. Maybe all his seasons.

Is pushing and shoving after the whistle common in high school wrestling?

I've covered maybe a dozen matches, never seen it. But I'd say there's a difference between pushing when you happen to be close to one another right after the whistle, and "going after," so I'd guess we'd have to know exactly what was done.

I agree with this. I've been to hundreds of wrestling matches and seen a few rare situations get out of hand after a match. But it's not common.

A little jostling after the whistle can be very common though. So it is important to get a better description -- it'd be nice to see the video -- of what the kid did before the ref went after him.

 

[93Devil]

Regardless of what happened beforehand, I'm impressed with the way the kid handled it just taking the ref's hand off his throat.

I don't think I would've reacted that coolly if a ref had ever done that to me on the mat.

Not defending the ref, but I don't think that kid is a perfect angel in all of this.

I doubt the kid is an angel, too. It sounds like he went after his opponent after action had stopped and a whistle had been blown. If that's the case the kid was clearly in the wrong and should've been penalized for it; depending on how bad it was, even tossed.

But there's no justification for the ref putting his hand up around the kid's throat. I am still surprised at how calm the kid stayed at that point. I wonder if he was just shocked the ref was coming at him.

Is there some significance to the kid taking off the headgear while on the mat?

I read on another board that this kid's team was a very good team, but a very agressive team, and that the coach was out because he was suspended. I have no idea of that is true or not.

Still, I would love to see the 10-20 seconds before the "choking" incident.