Hey, zeke. A Question.

[Yawn]

No.
To me, he's demonstrating that he was serious when he told us that he considered Joe Lieberman one of his senatorial mentors.
He also, as I recall, voted for this little gem:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_Action_Fairness_Act_of_2005
...which leads me to believe he'll get around to tort reform eventually.

Well, OK. That's your right, I guess.

But I thought your beef with Obama was that he was too much of a dancer and not enough of a puncher. So, he throws a jab -- and really, it was a light jab -- and you get mad at him about that.

But if you want to play that game, I would say the following. I like the campaign Edwards has run this time around.

I have trouble squaring this campaign, however, with the John Edwards who voted for the war in Iraq, the John Edwards who doesn't have any populist record to speak of in the Senate and the John Edwards who sat on the sidelines while his running mate got swiftboated the last time around.

When I combine that with the simple fact that Edwards doesn't have enough money to beat Hillary, and even if he could pull that miracle off he would be essentially broke until the convention. So, if you're worried about what happens to candidates when the Republican attack machine gets ahold of them, well, you might not want to lean Edwards, who won't even have a voice to defend himself.

My God. I could see this shaping up as Zeke and Yawn on one side, Fenian on the other. I don't mind Edwards. I loathe Chegal. Biden doesn't run from the war. But Edwards seems to be for the middle class in ways that others aren't.

More to the point: this is interesting, watching a bestest buddies quarrel. Can it get nasty? That would heighten the level of fun...

 

[Tom Petty]

You know, it will be my luck that I'll be standing somewhere on election night, watching President-elect Obama give his victory speech and that song will start blaring.

If that happens, Tom, I will hunt you down! I know where you live!

damn ... never should have sent you that pic. damn.

the only thing that could make this worse is if yawn showed up.

 

[Yawn]

Kind of like hearing "Don't....stop...thinking about tomorrow...."

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Serious question: Do you think Obama is secretly a Republican?

Or, do you think that Iowa's going to come down to as few as a thousand votes, and that all three of the frontrunners have targeted the caucusers that can put them over the top, and, that for Obama, those voters are Independents and Republicans under 50?

Further, do you think it's possible that rather than being as clueless and naive as some would have you believe, the guy's a smart politician who sees, as you do, that the above referenced likely caucusers are looking at the GOP field, being given a choice between Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney and not seeing a real choice there and maybe being willing to take a look at the other side?

Maybe, just maybe, a tack ever so slightly rightward isn't a bad thing for the Obama campaign right now?

Just a hunch.

If this is purely a tactic, it's a reekingly Clintonian one.
It does seem to predate the campaign, though, if the Lieber-love is any indication.

 

[zeke12]

It's no Sister Souljah speech, but, if it would help, maybe he can get someone to send out some nasty emails.

 

[Bill Horton]

And yet, I am full of fail.

I have to admit, no matter who the subject is, that's an interesting turn of phrase. I may have to steal ... um ... borrow it.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

It's no Sister Souljah speech, but, if it would help, maybe he can get someone to send out some nasty emails.

You going to be caucusing? Because, if you are, you could liveblog it for the board.
Yes, you, zeke, could work for free!
What a deal.
Seriously, though, updates would be cool.

 

[Bill Horton]

And yet, I am full of fail.

I have to admit, no matter who the subject is, that's an interesting turn of phrase. I may have to steal ... um ... borrow it.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, and I want to be wrong in this case, but are you hoping to find enough reasons not to vote for Obama, Fenian?

It's getting so that I don't have to look too hard for them. I can vote for him against anyone on the other side. I can vote for Hillary against anyone on the other side. That is such a towering collection of rodeo clowns that half the Republican electorate doesn't much like any of them, which is unprecedented in an eight-way field. But Obama's "get beyond politics" shtick is making my skin itch a little. What that comes down to, for me, is that nobody ever gets held accountable for seven years of unipartisan vandalism and a President Obama who gets nuked by the people he thinks he can compromise with.

I also liked "towering collection of rodeo clowns" and "unipartisan vandalism."
Good stuff.

 

[JBHawkEye]

It's no Sister Souljah speech, but, if it would help, maybe he can get someone to send out some nasty emails.

You going to be caucusing? Because, if you are, you could liveblog it for the board.
Yes, you, zeke, could work for free!
What a deal.
Seriously, though, updates would be cool.

I'd blog for you _ caucus site is a block away from where I live _ but I would be on the other side of the aisle from the party you're interested in.

 

[writing irish]

Meanwhile, over on the rodeo clown side, Huckabee's freaky "I won't run a negative ad and here it is" press conference is like a postmodern version of Mark Antony's speech in Shakespeare's Julius Caesar.

 

[zeke12]

Meanwhile, over on the rodeo clown side, Huckabee's freaky "I won't run a negative ad and here it is" press conference is like a postmodern version of Mark Antony's speech in Shakespeare's Julius Caesar.

That's up there with Gravel's Youtube video as the weirdest moment of the campaign thus far.

 

[zeke12]

It's no Sister Souljah speech, but, if it would help, maybe he can get someone to send out some nasty emails.

You going to be caucusing? Because, if you are, you could liveblog it for the board.
Yes, you, zeke, could work for free!
What a deal.
Seriously, though, updates would be cool.

I'd blog for you _ caucus site is a block away from where I live _ but I would be on the other side of the aisle from the party you're interested in.

I, for one, am just as interested in that side. I wonder about Huckabee's turnout, though. Do you think his people will get themselves to the polls? He doesn't seem to have much of an organization to help them along.

 

[JBHawkEye]

It's no Sister Souljah speech, but, if it would help, maybe he can get someone to send out some nasty emails.

You going to be caucusing? Because, if you are, you could liveblog it for the board.
Yes, you, zeke, could work for free!
What a deal.
Seriously, though, updates would be cool.

I'd blog for you _ caucus site is a block away from where I live _ but I would be on the other side of the aisle from the party you're interested in.

I, for one, am just as interested in that side. I wonder about Huckabee's turnout, though. Do you think his people will get themselves to the polls? He doesn't seem to have much of an organization to help them along.

He doesn't have much of an organization. He hasn't even ventured down into my area, so I don't know how much support there is for him here. He doesn't have mine _ I find him a little creepy.

Only GOPers to roll through here have been Romney, Thompson and McCain.

 

[zeke12]

I'm sticking with my predictions of Romney and Obama, made way back when. Organization is going to make the difference for Romney in those rural precincts, I think. It's no small advantage to have people willing to drive people to the caucus, call to remind them, etc.

Will certainly be interesting, though.

 

[JBHawkEye]

I'm sticking with my predictions of Romney and Obama, made way back when. Organization is going to make the difference for Romney in those rural precincts, I think. It's no small advantage to have people willing to drive people to the caucus, call to remind them, etc.

Will certainly be interesting, though.

I'll second those predictions.

Romney's people have been bombarding me with phone calls. I don't even answer the phone anymore.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

It's no Sister Souljah speech, but, if it would help, maybe he can get someone to send out some nasty emails.

You going to be caucusing? Because, if you are, you could liveblog it for the board.
Yes, you, zeke, could work for free!
What a deal.
Seriously, though, updates would be cool.

I'd blog for you _ caucus site is a block away from where I live _ but I would be on the other side of the aisle from the party you're interested in.

Are you kidding?
The GOP rules actually make sense. Fire away, JB.
I'll be up watching on CSPAN anyway. Wave if they come to your caucus site!
How many Iowans we got on this site anyway?

 

[JBHawkEye]

It's no Sister Souljah speech, but, if it would help, maybe he can get someone to send out some nasty emails.

You going to be caucusing? Because, if you are, you could liveblog it for the board.
Yes, you, zeke, could work for free!
What a deal.
Seriously, though, updates would be cool.

I'd blog for you _ caucus site is a block away from where I live _ but I would be on the other side of the aisle from the party you're interested in.

Are you kidding?
The GOP rules actually make sense. Fire away, JB.
I'll be up watching on CSPAN anyway. Wave if they come to your caucus site!
How many Iowans we got on this site anyway?

I'll hold up a sign that says "FENIAN LOVES HUCKABEE!"

I don't know if I'm going yet. I just don't have anyone I really like.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

I'll wave back with a sign that says, "My state is full of fail and doesn't count."

 

[JBHawkEye]

I would like to see both parties have a battle that lasts at least until Super Tuesday. I have a feeling that's not going to happen.

 

[zeke12]

Wonder how this is going to play...

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/31/prominent-clinton-supporter-criticizes-iowa-2/