Freelancing question

[Dick Whitman]

When you freelance a piece, how do you introduce yourself to a potential source? Do you note that you're a freelancer? Do you just tell then you are "with the Daily Planet"?

What's the etiquette?

 

[Moderator1]

Hi, this is Mike Harris, I'm a freelancer doing a piece for ***

Never give the impression you are full time for an outlet if you are not.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Thanks. I wasn't sure if "doing a piece for" covered it, or whether one should specifically note his or her freelance status. Your way sounds like the right way, though, for sure.

 

[RecoveringJournalist]

When I was an intern at a pretty big paper, the first thing they told us during orientation is to never identify yourself as an intern. I always thought that was strange. At my first job, the prep stringers all identified themselves on the phone as, "Kevin from the (paper)." and I didn't think there was anything wrong with that.

I'm not sure there is a right answer to this. I don't think you're misrepresenting yourself if you say, "Hi, this is **** and I'm doing a story for" the paper.

 

[reformedhack]

If you have something — such as a letter, an email or a contract — in which you've been commissioned by a specific publication to write a specific story, there's nothing wrong with telling people, "I'm Johnny Smith, and I'm working on a story for Lawn Darts Illustrated."

In the interest of disclosure, if you're asked, you should acknowledge that you're a freelance writer. But you can certainly add that you were commissioned by the publication to write the story.

If you have been commissioned, stating up front that you're a freelancer isn't really necessary. At best, it doesn't matter to most people, or they won't understand the difference. At worst, it will scare off media-savvy sources who might think you're just some schmuck writing the story on spec and trying to sell it to someone, anyone.

If you actually are some schmuck writing a story on spec, you can say you're a professional writer (reporter, journalist, author or some other noun that strikes your fancy) who's working on a story that you intend to publish in the future. If pressed, you should acknowledge your story doesn't have a home yet, but you can add that your work has appeared in such outlets as A, B and C in the past (or that you've worked for those organizations, if you were on staff).

In all cases, don't mislead anyone.

Unless you're Jim Rockford pretending to work for Guaranteed Insurance & Casualty, trying to get Angel out of another jam.

 

[da man]

I'll always say, "I'm a freelance writer working on a story for [INSERT PUBLICATION HERE]." Can't remember anyone refusing to talk to me because of that.

 

[Flip Wilson]

I string for the AP, and when I introduce myself to a coach, I always say, "Hi. I'm Flip Wilson with the Associated Press." At that time, I am working for the AP, so I have no qualms about introducing myself as such. If I'm ever asked if work fulltime for the AP or anything like that, I'm totally up front, but have no problem with saying I'm with the AP.

 

[mediaguy]

I'll say "I'm Mediaguy and I'm here with the Des Moines Register." Identifies why you're there. You're representing the outlet to the same extent whether it's for one story or 100.

 

[playthrough]

I'll say "I'm Mediaguy and I'm here with the Des Moines Register." Identifies why you're there. You're representing the outlet to the same extent whether it's for one story or 100.

That was my style. I freelanced full-time for years but rarely used the word "freelance," I didn't love it and thought it made me sound like less of a reporter. Just personal preference.

I wrote for a major outlet on a weekly basis for several years but never had an official contract, in that case I identified myself as a correspondent if someone pressed me on whether I was a full-timer.

 

[BDC99]

I'll say "I'm Mediaguy and I'm here with the Des Moines Register." Identifies why you're there. You're representing the outlet to the same extent whether it's for one story or 100.

This is true, but I'd go with the more informal, "I'm Name Name, working on a story for ... " approach. Wouldn't use the word freelancer, because it might invite doubt in your ability in some people's eyes (if they even know what it means). I wouldn't imply that I'm a full-time writer, not that most people would care. You are working for the paper either way.

 

[SnarkShark]

I don't think you should do anything to undermine your credibility. Saying you're a freelancer shouldn't do that, but it will with a lot of people.

I don't see the harm in just saying you're "with" the publication you're working for. They're still paying you.

 

[TopSpin]

Recommend reading the fine print of the contractor agreement if you signed one. Most agreements I've seen state something like this:

"With respect to services performed pursuant to this agreement, contractor will describe himself/herself as an 'independent contractor,' 'freelancer,' 'stringer,' or 'special correspondent' of (company name), and not as an employee, staff writer or other legal agent of the company."

I currently string for the AP outside of my normal gig. I'll state my name when freelancing, then follow with "I'm a correspondent working on a story for the AP" upon introducing myself to an athlete I don't know. The AP language in the contractor agreement is:

"Freelancer may not use the AP name to obtain media credentials except in order to gain access as a Freelancer when performing Assignments that Freelancer has accepted under this Agreement. Freelancer will act in a professional and businesslike manner while on Assignments for AP. Freelancer may not create credentials, badges, business cards or similar identifiers using the AP name or trademark."

As to undermining credibility, our industry knows correspondent is a freelancer/stringer. Use correspondent as the tag line if you're concerned about using freelancer or stringer. Those outside our industry won't dwell on a correspondent designation.

 

[Ace]

I think "working on a story for" [Insert Publication Here] is much better than saying "with."

 

[Doc Holliday]

Hi, I'm Joe Blow and I'm with Lawn Darts Illustrated is how I would go about it.

Sorry, reformedhack, but I'm also a plagiarist and a thief and I couldn't resist stealing some of your wonderful thunder with this publication.

 

[BDC99]

 

[The Big Ragu]

I'm with the, "I'm Joe Blow, and I am working on a story for Lawn Darts Illustrated" camp.

 

[Doc Holliday]

I freelanced a gig the other night and introduced myself to the coach as "Hello, I"m Phil and I'm stringing for the Punxsutawney Press." The coach, knowing that his local newspaper regularly used stringers for road games was more than accommodating for what I needed. I think in certain situations, you can tell them you're a stringer and it doesn't mean any less to your subject matter.

 

[JPsT]

I think the best method depends on what you're doing. When I write features, I do the "I'm JPsT, and I'm working on a story for Horseshoes Quarterly." If you're stringing a high school game and saying hello to the coach before the game, "I'm here for the Podunk Press" to make sure they know you're the 'hometown' guy. At a news conference where you have to say your name and outlet, no need to do anything more than "JPsT, Darts Digest."

 

[Riptide]

I usually say: "Hey, this is Lupica, you ****in' know who I am, right? Start talking."

 

[SJ Staff]

In a former career I was regularly interviewed as a subject matter expert on a particular topic.

I really couldn't care less how they introduced themselves.

What garnered my respect was never their title, it was:
1) Did they actually listen to what I was saying so that I didn't to re-explain the same thing over and over again?
1) Did they seem like they were keeping accurate notes so that I didn't have to worry about getting misquoted?
3) Did they ask intelligent questions that helped me deepen my thinking on the topic?