Fore please: The 2021 Masters thread

[maumann]

For a guy who is supposedly so frickin' smart, Bam Bam may never come to the realization that he can't bend Augusta to his will. Augusta puts a premium on distance control -- not just distance -- and hitting to targets on the fairway and the greens.

If he learns anything about that, then let's talk about a green jacket. Otherwise, he's going to hack his way to 74-75.

 

[Chef2]

The new nike shirts appear to have been inspired by Justin Verlander and Kate Upton.
That said....Koepka's pink nike hat was the titties.
I'll be getting one of those.

 

[Sam Mills 51]

Bam Bam may have trapped himself into thinking that because it worked at Winged Foot that it will work at Augusta.

Um, no. Larry Mize, Mike Weir, Zach Johnson and Jordan Spieth have won at Augusta – none of whom were long. Of course it helps – it helps at literally every place not named Harbour Town – but it's far from everything and knowing where to miss and not to miss big are keys at Augusta. A hole like No. 12 couldn't care less if you hit pitching wedge, but can you keep it out of Rae's Creek short and the woods long?

I don't blame DeChambeau for trying to overwhelm it, but his public proclamations that he's going to do so are setting himself up for even bigger failure.

 

[Michael_ Gee]

When you're long and are missing targets, you're worse off than the guys who aren't as long when they miss. Once I played in a charity tourney where one of my team had been on the Long Drive tour. It was a scramble, and sometimes we had like sand wedges to the green because of him, and other times, his ball left the property. If he'd had to play his own ball (the rest of his game was quite good), he wouldn't have broken 80. You can be in trouble from the wrong spot on fairways at Augusta. Hitting it past the second cut into the pretty trees and shrubs is disaster, and DeChambeau has done it more than once today.

 

[Scout]

The new nike shirts appear to have been inspired by Justin Verlander and Kate Upton.
That said....Koepka's pink nike hat was the titties.
I'll be getting one of those.

One or both titty?

 

[Michael_ Gee]

So DeChambeau is playing with a 46 inch, four degree driver today? Maybe he'd have fewer accuracy problems if he hadn't decided to use Babe Ruth's bat.

 

[Scout]

It’s more the length of your irons that wins these things.

When Tiger pulls out a 220 yard seven iron and the poor ******* next to him is trying to career a five to get to the same green, that’s the difference. The spin the long hitters gets because they have a different club in their hand is the difference. I know a long drive gets that club in your hand, too, but 2/9ths of the tees are played without a driver.

 

[Michael_ Gee]

It’s more the length of your irons that wins these things.

When Tiger pulls out a 220 yard seven iron and the poor ******* next to him is trying to career a five to get to the same green, that’s the difference. The spin the long hitters gets because they have a different club in their hand is the difference. I know a long drive gets that club in your hand, too, but 2/9ths of the tees are played without a driver.

Greens are so hard and fast today spin has little effect. Players have to hit very small targets to get close.

 

[Moderator1]

You wish death on a lot of people, that's for damn sure.
Why so bitter, Herb?

 

[Scout]

So, are there any decent black golfers on tour? Men or women?

I ask this because the Tiger effect seems to not have happened.

 

[UPChip]

So, are there any decent black golfers on tour? Men or women?

I ask this because the Tiger effect seems to not have happened.

Tony Finau comes to mind. And Tiger has a niece who is I think a thing on the LPGA Tour, but probably mostly because she's Tiger's niece.

 

[qtlaw]

So, are there any decent black golfers on tour? Men or women?

I ask this because the Tiger effect seems to not have happened.

Cameron Champ is currently in 8th place, 6 shots back, and has won multiple times in the last couple of years. Just because one person of African descent is tremendous doesn't mean there will be an immediate surge. There needs to be nurturing and access to facilities as well.

 

[Scout]

Tony Finau comes to mind. And Tiger has a niece who is I think a thing on the LPGA Tour, but probably mostly because she's Tiger's niece.

I don't think Tony is black.

 

[Scout]

Cameron Champ is currently in 8th place, 6 shots back, and has won multiple times in the last couple of years. Just because one person of African descent is tremendous doesn't mean there will be an immediate surge. There needs to be nurturing and access to facilities as well.

But there was a huge push to bring golf to the children of the city, right?

I dug this up...
When it comes to making golf more diverse, it's time for a new approach

 

[Neutral Corner]

In all fairness, some will consider the money, the trophies, the glory and the adoration of peers and fans worth it. Is it?

Ask him in ten years when it is all he can do to put his shoes on.

 

[qtlaw]

I don't think Tony is black.

Tony is Polynesian.

 

[UPChip]

Tony is Polynesian.

I stand corrected, though I imagine he's also black enough for the Augusta National membership to notice.

 

[Moderator1]

 

[Moderator1]

Sucks for Scott, known him for years, did some golf for me when I was SE in D.C. I hope he's OK.

 

[qtlaw]

But there was a huge push to bring golf to the children of the city, right?

I dug this up...
When it comes to making golf more diverse, it's time for a new approach

Thoughtful article brings specifics to what I raised, more nurturing and access for blacks. The side-eyes and micro-aggressions in the pro shop of the high end semi-private or country club? Yeah happens to people of color more than those in the majority and its got a real effect; makes you consider doing something else.

I think the larger message is look at the whole infrastructure of the game of golf and look at where are the opportunities to be more inclusive. (I'm not a big fan of re-energizing caddying just as a grass-roots starter; I think you can reallocate those funds to more group lessons or municipal facilities.)