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Devin said:
Bring him to New Orleans. I think the experience backing up Drew Brees along with coach Payton's knowledge would go a long way in helping him reach his potential.

Vince Young would **** his pants at the idea of checking five targets on the same play.
 
YGBFKM said:
TigerVols said:
Vince Young was 30-18 as a starter.

Jeff Fisher has a career record of 142-120.

I'd say the wrong guy's getting the boot. Perhaps in any other season, they'd both be gone this week. But given the labor situation, it seems teams are a little slow in pulling the trigger, so Fisher will most likely be back.

It's pretty clear, given the last couple of years, that the Titans won in spite of Young. It says a lot that Fisher, on what many considered to be the hot seat, was willing to suffer through a lost half a season with Rusty Smith and a 345-year-old Kerry Collins instead of putting up with another second of VY's bull****. And perhaps I missed it, but if VY was so important to the team and so respected, where's the outrage from his teammates?

Umm, Fisher was forced to play Rusty Smith and Collins because VY broke his hand and had surgery.

In '09, Collins led the team to an 0-6 start and a 59-0 loss to the Pats; when Young was forced into the lineup by Adams, the team went on a tear and nearly made the playoffs. If the Titans won DESPITE Young, why didn't they win when he wasn't in the lineup? Your line of reasoning makes no sense to me.
 
TigerVols said:
YGBFKM said:
TigerVols said:
Vince Young was 30-18 as a starter.

Jeff Fisher has a career record of 142-120.

I'd say the wrong guy's getting the boot. Perhaps in any other season, they'd both be gone this week. But given the labor situation, it seems teams are a little slow in pulling the trigger, so Fisher will most likely be back.

It's pretty clear, given the last couple of years, that the Titans won in spite of Young. It says a lot that Fisher, on what many considered to be the hot seat, was willing to suffer through a lost half a season with Rusty Smith and a 345-year-old Kerry Collins instead of putting up with another second of VY's bull****. And perhaps I missed it, but if VY was so important to the team and so respected, where's the outrage from his teammates?

Umm, Fisher was forced to play Rusty Smith and Collins because VY broke his hand and had surgery.

In '09, Collins led the team to an 0-6 start and a 59-0 loss to the Pats; when Young was forced into the lineup by Adams, the team went on a tear and nearly made the playoffs. If the Titans won DESPITE Young, why didn't they win when he wasn't in the lineup? Your line of reasoning makes no sense to me.

Why did you leave out the team's '08 record?
 
TigerVols said:
Vince Young was 30-18 as a starter.

Jeff Fisher has a career record of 142-120.

Do you think Young understands percentages and ratios?

Young will be picked up. You can count on that.

Would Seattle be a nice fit? How about Arizona?
 
On who will take a chance on VY: How about Andy Reid, high on his Mike Vick reclamation? The Eagles could use an upgrade at third-string.
 
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LongTimeListener said:
Devin said:
Bring him to New Orleans. I think the experience backing up Drew Brees along with coach Payton's knowledge would go a long way in helping him reach his potential.

Vince Young would **** his pants at the idea of checking five targets on the same play.

Drew Brees is 31 and has played in the league for 11 yrs (with injuries)

He doesn't have a whole lot left in him and you're not going to see to many hang around like Brett Favre did and play at this level.
 
Brees' age has nothing to do with the idea that VY couldn't run Payton's offense.
 
Semi-related, but it's pretty astounding to look at the list of accumulated talent in that "Greatest Game Ever" and see how many of those guys have been underachievers and in most places complete flops in the NFL: Leinart, Bush, Jarrett, LenDale, Winston Justice, Vince Young, Selvin Young, Limas Sweed, Michael Huff. There are some pretty good linemen from that game, though. And also Jamaal Charles and Steve Smith.
 
Good on Bud for choosing THE GREATEST COACH IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD over THE GREATEST QUARTERBACK IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. I still believe Vince is going to win a ****load of games for someone, but it was unsalvageable in Tennessee and he was more to blame than Fisher. I hope he matures a little bit. Depression is no laughing matter and nothing to be ashamed of and nothing to be mocked, contrary to what some on this thread think.

That said, good on TigerVols for pointing out the Titans just ****ing won games with Young and didn't even tread water the last two times Collins was the QB (and YGBFKM, the reason he didn't mention 2008 is b/c the last two years have proven it was a fluke). Funny, I do that and I'm accused of sucking his ****. Again: Young can win games--a lot of games. I'll be rooting for him to land on his feet, and to make the assholes of the world look foolish.
 
Never understood why people were so high on Young. I thought he was terribly overrated coming out of college and his NFL career seems spotty at best. Reminds me of Cordell Stewart. Great athlete, but not all there.
 
Mark2010 said:
Never understood why people were so high on Young. I thought he was terribly overrated coming out of college and his NFL career seems spotty at best. Reminds me of Cordell Stewart. Great athlete, but not all there.
plus you don't like black people.
 
BYH said:
Good on Bud for choosing THE GREATEST COACH IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD over THE GREATEST QUARTERBACK IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. I still believe Vince is going to win a ****load of games for someone, but it was unsalvageable in Tennessee and he was more to blame than Fisher. I hope he matures a little bit. Depression is no laughing matter and nothing to be ashamed of and nothing to be mocked, contrary to what some on this thread think.

That said, good on TigerVols for pointing out the Titans just ****ing won games with Young and didn't even tread water the last two times Collins was the QB (and YGBFKM, the reason he didn't mention 2008 is b/c the last two years have proven it was a fluke). Funny, I do that and I'm accused of sucking his ****. Again: Young can win games--a lot of games. I'll be rooting for him to land on his feet, and to make the assholes of the world look foolish.

You're just pissed because you share the same Wonderlic score and he makes more money.
 
Young is probably one of the best QBs of the current era who clearly cannot manage to give his all on a consistent basis. He can't be counted on in the locker room, his health has been a question, and he's always on the verge of falling apart due to influences great QBs would ignore completely. His numbers and record are definitely solid, but all the peripheral BS makes him a big risk and a definite headache.

Does he make a bad team like Arizona several wins better? I'd think so. Does he take a borderline playoff team to the Super Bowl? I'd think not.
 
slappy4428 said:
BYH said:
Good on Bud for choosing THE GREATEST COACH IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD over THE GREATEST QUARTERBACK IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. I still believe Vince is going to win a ****load of games for someone, but it was unsalvageable in Tennessee and he was more to blame than Fisher. I hope he matures a little bit. Depression is no laughing matter and nothing to be ashamed of and nothing to be mocked, contrary to what some on this thread think.

That said, good on TigerVols for pointing out the Titans just ****ing won games with Young and didn't even tread water the last two times Collins was the QB (and YGBFKM, the reason he didn't mention 2008 is b/c the last two years have proven it was a fluke). Funny, I do that and I'm accused of sucking his ****. Again: Young can win games--a lot of games. I'll be rooting for him to land on his feet, and to make the assholes of the world look foolish.

You're just pissed because you share the same Wonderlic score and he makes more money.

The hardest possible SIX.
 
I just gained a ton of respect for Bud Adams. It's nice to see an owner who listens to the people around him.

If you can get him cheap, I could see the Niners, Raiders, Vikings, Bengals and Cardinals taking a look at Young. But what he did to Fisher, who is widely considered one of the most likable coaches in the league, is going to hurt him.
 
A hyperventaliting, privileged bubbleboy with rabbit ears who treats a playbook like a disease-carrier and can split a locker room with a wave of his arm . . . oh, yeah, baby, sign me right up.
 
Ben_Hecht said:
A hyperventaliting, privileged bubbleboy with rabbit ears who treats a playbook like a disease-carrier and can split a locker room with a wave of his arm . . . oh, yeah, baby, sign me right up.

I'm sure Cam Newton is going to love being compared to this guy at the combine and leading up to the draft.
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
Ben_Hecht said:
A hyperventaliting, privileged bubbleboy with rabbit ears who treats a playbook like a disease-carrier and can split a locker room with a wave of his arm . . . oh, yeah, baby, sign me right up.

I'm sure Cam Newton is going to love being compared to this guy at the combine and leading up to the draft.

Randall Cunningham, that's who Newton reminds me of.

Other than skin color, I don't see Newton and Young being similar at all.
 

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