exploiting NBA ghetto pathology

[henryhenry]

mike wise on NBA ghetto pathology - yet another take on 'NBA Dads' - does anybody think this is a crass exploitation - disguised as sensitive and touchy-feely?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/28/AR2006102800830.html

 

[Vic Mackey]

I've got to say, Henry, I really liked the piece. Considering the number of profiles done on Arenas leading up to the season, this has some new stuff. The paternity avoidance reporting was particularly impressive to me.

The only part that dragged for me was the part about his mother, but if you've gone and researched every other member of his family, I don't know how you could avoid it.

 

[sirvaliantbrown]

mike wise on NBA ghetto pathology - yet another take on 'NBA Dads' - does anybody think this is a crass exploitation - disguised as sensitive and touchy-feely?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/28/AR2006102800830.html

I've read dozens of pieces on "NBA moms" and precious few on NBA dads. If Gil Sr. was the sole focus of this one, I still would've liked it. But what made it great was the insight into Gil Jr.'s psyche. I've been loving all the "Gil Arenas is a strange, strange guy" stories/blog posts of recent months, but Wise here dug deeper. Good stuff.

 

[85bears]

I thought Wise's Sunday piece on Arenas was incredible - haven't read the Monday follow yet.

The Post hit a grand slam on Sunday, when you include Eli Saslow's WP Magazine amazing piece on a Redskins coach's son who suffered a traumatic brain injury in a college football game (a slam dunk BASW entry), a very detailed and interesting Red Auerbach obit and about 80 inches on the Redskins free agent philosophy. This was what a Sunday paper should look like.

Also - the Arenas story ran as the main piece on A1 and took up two inside pages, and the story on Dean Hixon (the brain damaged athlete) was the cover story for WP Mag. And all of this smack dab in the middle of election season.

 

[Alma]

The piece doesn't scream exploitation to me. I think a lot of what Arenas says is crap - you haven't forgiven anybody who's ever hurt you if you reject love from others - but it's the journalist's job to present the man as he sees himself, not as he should see himself. Wise did an especially good job with the section involving Arenas' girlfriend. I enjoyed the stand-alone paragraph about being pregnant with his second child. Those two sure are making some good choices.

Anyway, a series like this only goes so far when the subject talks a blue streak with limited insight into life. There is only so much pride and rage a person can read. Wise is doing the right thing through letting the scene speak for itself, but it becomes a little dull.

 

[85bears]

The piece doesn't scream exploitation to me. I think a lot of what Arenas says is crap - you haven't forgiven anybody who's ever hurt you if you reject love from others - but it's the journalist's job to present the man as he sees himself, not as he should see himself. Wise did an especially good job with the section involving Arenas' girlfriend. I enjoyed the stand-alone paragraph about being pregnant with his second child. Those two sure are making some good choices.

Anyway, a series like this only goes so far when the subject talks a blue streak with limited insight into life. There is only so much pride and rage a person can read. Wise is doing the right thing through letting the scene speak for itself, but it becomes a little dull.

Great depth of reporting, though, on his upbringing. Everyone's concentrating on the paternity suit and losing him and his dad sleeping in a car, his mom showing up randomly at a Wizards game, Wise visiting with Arenas' mom and the siblings (seven of them) that he has never met, etc., etc.

That is outstanding material.

And for anyone who hasn't read it - Arenas' girlfriend isn't some gold digger "ghetto" girl - she's very successful in her own right. And Arenas bought her a house three blocks from him so he could see the children all the time.

 

[slowcenter]

The overlying premise that Arenas has used all the slings and arrows he has suffered as motivation and they have made him what he is today is mundane. The reporting itself -- unearthing several nuggets that have not appeared elsewhere -- is what makes it an interesting and insightful read.

My belief is that some readers (and sportswriters) simply have fatigue hearing about some of the awful upbringings NBA players have had. That may be, but it doesn't change the facts. The players in the NBA have some awful stories. Not a cliche'. Fact.

 

[henryhenry]

sorry - it's a cliche and a stereotype. i feel like i've read this story a thousand times. it doesn't matter how you tell it - it's derivative.

a far more original and fresh story would be an NBA star who emerged from a two-parent middle-class non-violent upbringing.

 

[henryhenry]

though i must say the part about arenas ducking the subpoena - and his team helping him do it - was really good stuff. i would have written that as the lead.

 

[85bears]

though i must say the part about arenas ducking the subpoena - and his team helping him do it - was really good stuff. i would have written that as the lead.

Eh .. not necessarily. I remember this debate earlier this year re: Pearlman's Rocker story. Someone came on here and said Pearlman couldn't write because he didn't lead with Rocker's most offensive comments, "his best stuff."

Sometimes the "best stuff" is more powerful when you build a base for it so that it's richer with context. That's what Wise did.

 

[Sportsbruh]

So this is the reason for his "strange" behavior. Dude needs to heal. So what he got abandonment issues?

 

[tommyp]

a far more original and fresh story would be an NBA star who emerged from a two-parent middle-class non-violent upbringing.

Sounds a lot like Kobe Bryant to me ...

I for one, loved the Arenas piece and thought Wise did a thorough job. I'm no NBA fan, but I am now a fan of Arenas.

 

[The Basement]

Good call on Kobe 'tommyp', but I don't see how this can make you a fan of a guy. if anything, it shows how guys that grow up even in a seemingly "stable" environment can still come out a little screwy.

The dodging of the subpeona was very, very interesting. Somehow, i don't think Gilbert's the only one to do that over the years..

 

[Cousin Jeffrey]

Arenas' story certainly isn't the typical ghetto tale. If he were raised by his mom amid half-brothers in the PJs, then yeah. But being raised by his pops in California is hardly typical. Add to that, he's not at all ordinary in ghetto parlance, he's more of a loner, like Kobe. He's a different dude and this story, not to mention the two hundred others Gilbertology stories I've read in the past year, are always good reading.

 

[slowcenter]

sorry - it's a cliche and a stereotype. i feel like i've read this story a thousand times. it doesn't matter how you tell it - it's derivative.

a far more original and fresh story would be an NBA star who emerged from a two-parent middle-class non-violent upbringing.

You know Henry, I wrote a few of those about guys like Grant Hill and David Robinson over the years. Most editors said "nice story," and tried to stifle yawns while throwing me the compliment. Then they would hit up our other writer for another "What is Dennis Rodman Up To?" story.

You don't get to have it both ways.

 

[henryhenry]

Arenas' story certainly isn't the typical ghetto tale. If he were raised by his mom amid half-brothers in the PJs, then yeah. But being raised by his pops in California is hardly typical. Add to that, he's not at all ordinary in ghetto parlance, he's more of a loner, like Kobe. He's a different dude and this story, not to mention the two hundred others Gilbertology stories I've read in the past year, are always good reading.

okay, but the writer needs to make that clear - context and perspective - and he didn't

 

[tommyp]

Good call on Kobe 'tommyp', but I don't see how this can make you a fan of a guy. if anything, it shows how guys that grow up even in a seemingly "stable" environment can still come out a little screwy.

The dodging of the subpeona was very, very interesting. Somehow, i don't think Gilbert's the only one to do that over the years..

Basement:
I'm not sure a child living for a few of his formative years in a crack house can be considered "stable."

What I admire about Arenas is his dedication to his craft and his ability to channel any perceived slight to his benefit. Also, Gilbert is portrayed as a good guy--humble and hard-working--yet his continual struggle is compelling as he tries to find the balance between his somewhat lost childhood and the responsibility of doing the right thing.

Or perhaps I identify with him because I could see myself acting the same way if I grew up in similar circumstances.