Donovan McNabb (crybaby) and De La Hoya (robbed?) **VIDEO**

[John D. Villarreal]

Hey all,

Rok & I delivered again. We break down the latest Donovan McNabb/Eagles draft pick controversy (what kind of voodoo doll has Mama McNabb have on Any Reid & the GM over there?) & the De La Hoya fight.

Here they are:

McNabb:

Oscar part 1:

Oscar part 2:

I think Oscar should have won & Rok and I tell you why. Rok also reveals an online source he does some writing for (for the stalker types on SJ - lol)

I will post a McNabb poll here and redo the Oscar poll (since we have a thread for that) as to how ppl think post fight about the outcome.

Also, don't worry the SJ parody bits are coming soon, I just didn't have time last night before I went out to do those right.

John

 

[John D. Villarreal]

Ok, just deleted this thread in the AG section. Sorry for the mixup guys. Now we have everything straight.

And F of F - we will do the Witlock vs. Scoop spoof (plus other SJ favorites!) soon. It is only that that is such pure gold that it has to be done right.

Normally, I can just "fire & forget" with my TV/Radio stuff (no notes, no prep, and one take) and get solid results (as I have for all of my vids on You Tube), but for something like that you really want to do it justice

JDV

 

[Flying Headbutt]

This is not news. It goes in Anything Goes. I put it there for a reason. **** an a.

 

[friend of a friend]

Ok, just deleted this thread in the AG section. Sorry for the mixup guys. Now we have everything straight.

And F of F - we will do the Witlock vs. Scoop spoof (plus other SJ favorites!) soon. It is only that that is such pure gold that it has to be done right.

Normally, I can just "fire & forget" with my TV/Radio stuff (no notes, no prep, and one take) and get solid results (as I have for all of my vids on You Tube), but for something like that you really want to do it justice

JDV

I can't wait.

 

[friend of a friend]

This is not news. It goes in Anything Goes. I put it there for a reason. **** an a.

Sorry, butterator, but everything JDV does is news.

 

[John D. Villarreal]

Hmm, this poll is getting interesting.

I (and I am sure ESPN & Rush Limbaugh for sure if he hears about it) will be VERY interested in how this poll turns out.

I think this is one of those times where we can go back with 20/20 hidsight and properly look at an important SJ event.

Thus, your votes will be an important judgement on that event from inside experts, which is why I tried to craft the poll Q's with precision.

This result (your judgement) is news.

John D. Villarreal

 

[Jones]

I really don't get these things. How were you "up close and personal" to the fight? You watched it on TV, like millions of other people.

And for once, there really was no argument about the result. The only reporter at ringside who had Oscar winning was Ron Borges, and he changed his mind. I had it a draw, but I admittedly gave every questionable round to Oscar, because he was the aggressor (and because his winning would be better for my story, wishful thinking). But the punch stat numbers were overwhelming -- Oscar couldn't land **** despite some serious flurries; that, and because Howard Lederman had it so decisively for Floyd, and because even Oscar wasn't all that emphatic about his winning during the post-fight press conference, any debate was cooled off almost immediately. And believe me, fight writers love a good debate. There just wasn't one here. It was as unanimous as a split decision can be.

But what do I know?

 

[John D. Villarreal]

This is not news. It goes in Anything Goes. I put it there for a reason. **** an a.

Ah, I wondered what happened FH. I thought it was my mistake in placement.

It doesn't much matter to me. However, my understanding was that this section is for the discussion of sports & news events. Thus, I wanted to be sure it was properly categorized.

I mean this is exactly what that is - a discussion of timely sports events.

Also, please see my above post. I think that the poll results (if enough SJ's vote) is certainly news concerning many aspects of SJ (McNabb, ESPN, Rush) and a controversy that gained national attention.

So, right I am cool either way but I would think this is a S&N topic.

Please advise,

John

 

[Flying Headbutt]

Yes, it's a discussion for sports and news events. It's not a discussion about a discussion about events that someone with a big ego watched on tv.

 

[friend of a friend]

Hmm, this poll is getting interesting.

I (and I am sure ESPN & Rush Limbaugh for sure if he hears about it) will be VERY interested in how this poll turns out.

I think this is one of those times where we can go back with 20/20 hidsight and properly look at an important SJ event.

Thus, your votes will be an important judgement on that event from inside experts, which is why I tried to craft the poll Q's with precision.

This result (your judgement) is news.

John D. Villarreal

I'm sure the WWL has someone checking the results every 10 minutes or so.

 

[John D. Villarreal]

I really don't get these things. How were you "up close and personal" to the fight? You watched it on TV, like millions of other people.

And for once, there really was no argument about the result. The only reporter at ringside who had Oscar winning was Ron Borges, and he changed his mind. I had it a draw, but I admittedly gave every questionable round to Oscar, because he was the aggressor (and because his winning would be better for my story, wishful thinking). But the punch stat numbers were overwhelming -- Oscar couldn't land **** despite some serious flurries; that, and because Howard Lederman had it so decisively for Floyd, and because even Oscar wasn't all that emphatic about his winning during the post-fight press conference, any debate was cooled off almost immediately. And believe me, fight writers love a good debate. There just wasn't one here. It was as unanimous as a split decision can be.

But what do I know?

Yeah, I disagree.

A draw I could see. There are a lot of criteria in boxing as to who wins a round. However, the best way I heard it described was "at the end of the round who would you have rather been that round?). Under that description I would have much rather been ODL much of the fight.

James toney won a lot of fights throwing & landing less punches bc he would hurt guys with the shots he threw, while they were trying to keep him away by jabbing, etc. Also, I do NOT beleive the PS numbers were picking up all of ODL's bodyshots.

DL was landing by far the harder shots and totally made the fight. PBF was running the whole fight and many of his shots landed were pats off the break.

I do agree that if it was amatuer boxing on pure punches landed (regardless of strength) PBF won, but in terms of a pro fight - ODL should have squeeked it out.

JDV

 

[friend of a friend]

I saw the fight. And I agree with the decision.

DLH has himself to blame for the outcome.

 

[John D. Villarreal]

Yes, it's a discussion for sports and news events. It's not a discussion about a discussion about events that someone with a big ego watched on tv.

Ok, whatever - like I said I don't care much but I think it tweaks the board a bit in organization.

Also, let's ease up on the bias and sanctimony here FH. You make distinctions of no logical difference, but act like there is some principal behind it - lol.

You need to be fair as a moderator. Witlock, Bruh, and countless others here have egos AT LEAST as large as mine (I just have fun and play up my persona mostly to amuse the SJ peeps (and myself) who love to hate me. You don't find me begging to be on Oprah or flying out & erecting a tent in front of court steps to get air time) who all link their articles on threads here all the time. Nor, do I hate on Witlock for doing it. He's smart.

How many other's link other SJ articles here to discuss - uh everybody!

Would that be a discussion of a discussion??

Man, you kill me - what a clowny thing to say which meant nothing!

Look man, I am a cool dude - but you obviously have something against me and my brother & attempts to justify that cloaked in BS logic that has more holes than swiss cheese just makes you look bad not me.

You may hate me reminding you, but I am an elite lawyer, ok. When I see BS logic I will shred it like confetti in seconds & that is CERTAINLY BS logic.

The point is - you want to make fun of me, go for it! But, when it impacts your decisions as an official moderator that reflects poorly on you and this board.

The bottom line is that was a 100% legit thread on S&N. You may not like me but I have total credentials to be here posting.

Moreover, in case you haven't noticed I promote SportsJournalists.com in other venues (why do you think traffic on the site is up). Rok and I bring not only great opinions, info, and entertainment here but we also increase views a LOT (check our thread counts) and that means $ to the owners of the site.

Thus, I would suggest you rethink your "policies" regarding us as I know for a fact I am not the only one that finds your moderating ..uh..questionable.

Thanks,

John D. Villarreal

 

[The Big Ragu]

"ELITE LAWYER" and "COOL DUDE"

 

[friend of a friend]

Oh yeah, Webby, Moddy and the rest will soon be retiring to some Caribbean paradise with all the cash they're making off this site. :

 

[John D. Villarreal]

DLH has himself to blame for the outcome.

There is a lot of truth to that F of F. Shades of Trinidad.

ODL should have done like he did in Rd's 12 & 2 all fight and he would have won likely by TKO. He needed to make it a brawl & just beat PBF up.

 

[John D. Villarreal]

Oh yeah, Webby, Moddy and the rest will soon be retiring to some Caribbean paradise with all the cash they're making off this site. :

Ha ha, let's not go that far. The point is that Rok and I are "good citizens" of this site in almost every measureable way, particularly the ones that count .

Whatever, I don't need any medals here - the point is FH was wrong again & we all know it.

 

[Jones]

Speaking of logic:


TOTAL PUNCHES THROWN: De La Hoya, 587. Mayweather, 481.

TOTAL PUNCHES CONNECTED: De La Hoya, 122. Mayweather 207.

PERCENTAGE: De La Hoya, 21%. Mayweather, 43%.


Ergo, I'd rather be Mayweather.

 

[friend of a friend]

DLH has himself to blame for the outcome.

There is a lot of truth to that F of F. Shades of Trinidad.

ODL should have done like he did in Rd's 12 & 2 all fight and he would have won likely by TKO. He needed to make it a brawl & just beat PBF up.

Exactly. He knew Mayweather couldn't hurt him, and yet he let Mayweather control the fight.

 

[John D. Villarreal]

Speaking of logic:


TOTAL PUNCHES THROWN: De La Hoya, 587. Mayweather, 481.

TOTAL PUNCHES CONNECTED: De La Hoya, 122. Mayweather 207.

PERCENTAGE: De La Hoya, 21%. Mayweather, 43%.


Ergo, I'd rather be Mayweather.

Doesn't measure power of shots. Who would you rather be punched by Tyson or PBF?

Also, I don't thnk Compubox was picking up many of ODL's bodyshots.