Crap ... what's going to happen to that surge of NFL interest in Jacksonville?

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Five teams have discussed a move to Los Angeles. None are surprises. Chargers, Vikings, Rams, Raiders, and, shocker of shockers, the Jaguars.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Av2x5r7H7U1LV_h.BWNs3MQ5nYcB?slug=ap-nfllosangeles

If I had to rank them based on relevance to their local markets, from the least important to most: 1. Jaguars; 2. Rams; 3. Chargers; 4. Raiders; 5. Vikings.
 
The big windfall to any move is being able to sell PSL's . It remains to be seen of NFL ability to sell PSL's in LA.
 
Bubbler said:
Five teams have discussed a move to Los Angeles. None are surprises. Chargers, Vikings, Rams, Raiders, and, shocker of shockers, the Jaguars.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Av2x5r7H7U1LV_h.BWNs3MQ5nYcB?slug=ap-nfllosangeles

If I had to rank them based on relevance to their local markets, from the least important to most: 1. Jaguars; 2. Rams; 3. Chargers; 4. Raiders; 5. Vikings.

Raiders don't mean jack **** in the Bay Area. Can't say about Jacksonville, but I know the Rams and Chargers are bigger in their locales than the Raiders are.
 
The Jaguars make the most sense by a lot.

Hopefully, the Vikings will get their stadium and everything can go back to normal. It would be a travesty to have Minnesota lose the Vikings.

Why should two teams that left LA be allowed to go back? That should take the Raiders and Rams out of the mix.

The Chargers make sense and they need a new stadium as well, but San Diego would miss the Chargers a hell of a lot more than Jacksonville would miss the Jags.
 
LongTimeListener said:
Bubbler said:
Five teams have discussed a move to Los Angeles. None are surprises. Chargers, Vikings, Rams, Raiders, and, shocker of shockers, the Jaguars.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Av2x5r7H7U1LV_h.BWNs3MQ5nYcB?slug=ap-nfllosangeles

If I had to rank them based on relevance to their local markets, from the least important to most: 1. Jaguars; 2. Rams; 3. Chargers; 4. Raiders; 5. Vikings.

Raiders don't mean jack **** in the Bay Area. Can't say about Jacksonville, but I know the Rams and Chargers are bigger in their locales than the Raiders are.

The Raiders have a lineage in the Bay Area and they don't mean **** right now because they suck.

The Rams couldn't define woodwork to St. Louis fans right now better if they were trying on purpose.
 
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They sold out almost every game last year.

I can't justify paying out the ass for the NFL experience, such that it is, when I have a quality HD and a fridge full of cheap beer. The HD singlehandedly made attendance an ongoing debate. It's not going to go away.
 
Bubbler said:
LongTimeListener said:
Bubbler said:
Five teams have discussed a move to Los Angeles. None are surprises. Chargers, Vikings, Rams, Raiders, and, shocker of shockers, the Jaguars.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Av2x5r7H7U1LV_h.BWNs3MQ5nYcB?slug=ap-nfllosangeles

If I had to rank them based on relevance to their local markets, from the least important to most: 1. Jaguars; 2. Rams; 3. Chargers; 4. Raiders; 5. Vikings.

Raiders don't mean jack **** in the Bay Area. Can't say about Jacksonville, but I know the Rams and Chargers are bigger in their locales than the Raiders are.

The Raiders have a lineage in the Bay Area and they don't mean **** right now because they suck.

The Rams couldn't define woodwork to St. Louis fans right now better if they were trying on purpose.

I will take your point about the Rams, though I have always thought that was the single worst stadium in the NFL and that was why support was so bad. But I am in the Bay Area and I can tell you the Raiders will not make it back -- they are a dead team in a dead town and nobody wants to go anywhere near the stadium even on the off chance they do get good again. Even during the Gruden years and the Super Bowl season they were routinely blacked out. The same factors that plague the A's plague the Raiders.
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
The Jaguars make the most sense by a lot.

Hopefully, the Vikings will get their stadium and everything can go back to normal. It would be a travesty to have Minnesota lose the Vikings.

Why should two teams that left LA be allowed to go back? That should take the Raiders and Rams out of the mix.

The Chargers make sense and they need a new stadium as well, but San Diego would miss the Chargers a hell of a lot more than Jacksonville would miss the Jags.

The Chargers, of course, also left Los Angeles.
 
No way in hell AEG brings da Radiers to the little stadium they're building down the street from my pad. No way.

It'll be the Chargers, if the bartenders and the politicos @ The Pacific Dining Car know what they're talking about (and when it comes to LA, these guys usually do!).
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
Raiders fans will come back. Jaguars fans never showed up in the first place.

They never left. They started going to USC football games for a long time, and moved over to Dodger Stadium for the last few years.
 
I can't believe the Vikings would leave, that franchise is too deeply connected to the culture of that state.

The Chargers seem like a logical candidate to me. Their stadium's a pit, they ain't getting a new one, they're already in the So Cal market, already have an established So Cal fan base, they'd just have to move operation up the interstate a couple hours. And LA is where their franchise started, they could spin it as returning home.
 
Re: Crap ... what's going to happen to that surge of NFL interest in Jacksonvill

dixiehack said:
Jags matter in their community. There just isn't enough community to matter.

Actually, this isn't strictly true. While playing one of the Sporcle games that's on another thread, I discovered that Jacksonville has a population of more than 800,000, which places it as the 11th largest city in the U.S.

That's more than double the population of Miami and Pittsburgh, and more than three times the population of Buffalo, which has the smallest population of any city in the NFL.

The problem Jacksonville has, I think, is there isn't a lot of metropolitan sprawl there. The city of Jacksonville pretty much IS the metro area.
 
albert77 said:
dixiehack said:
Jags matter in their community. There just isn't enough community to matter.

Actually, this isn't strictly true. While playing one of the Sporcle games that's on another thread, I discovered that Jacksonville has a population of more than 800,000, which places it as the 11th largest city in the U.S.

That's more than double the population of Miami and Pittsburgh, and more than three times the population of Buffalo, which has the smallest population of any city in the NFL.

Oh c'mon. I'd think folks here would understand that official city limit population statistics mean next to nothing. That's largely just a measure of how each municipality decides to draw it's boundaries. Rather, it's metro area studies that provide an immeasurably more accurate representation of how big a city is. And Jax Metro only ranks about 40th, not even remotely close to the likes of Miami and Pittsburgh;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_United_States_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas
 
Agreed, it's the overall metro area that is significant. Some cities just define their boundaries differently.

I said at the time that the NFL made a big mistake in 1993 in awarding expanison franchises to Carolina and Jacksonville when Baltimore, Memphis and St. Louis were available. Could have prevented a lot of the subsequent franchise moves, too.

I don't know whether Los Angeles will ever get its stadium act together, however.
 
Mark2010 said:
Agreed, it's the overall metro area that is significant. Some cities just define their boundaries differently.

I said at the time that the NFL made a big mistake in 1993 in awarding expanison franchises to Carolina and Jacksonville when Baltimore, Memphis and St. Louis were available. Could have prevented a lot of the subsequent franchise moves, too.

I don't know whether Los Angeles will ever get its stadium act together, however.

Memphis?
 
ucacm said:
Mark2010 said:
Agreed, it's the overall metro area that is significant. Some cities just define their boundaries differently.

I said at the time that the NFL made a big mistake in 1993 in awarding expanison franchises to Carolina and Jacksonville when Baltimore, Memphis and St. Louis were available. Could have prevented a lot of the subsequent franchise moves, too.

I don't know whether Los Angeles will ever get its stadium act together, however.

Memphis?

Yes, Memphis. Memphis had been begging for a team for years. They tried to get the WFL franchise into the NFL after the former folded. When the Oilers announced they were coming in to be carpetbaggers for two years, the fans were pissed. They didn't do all that work to be a pit stop for a team on the move and the apathy toward the team forced Bud Adams to go ahead and play at Vanderbilt for a year instead of staying at the Liberty Bowl for a second season. The Oilers' year in Memphis made Jacksonville look like a football Mecca.

I'm not sure but I don't think the Oilers/Titans even had a radio affiliate in Memphis for a while after going on to Nashville.
 

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