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Interesting look by Dave Kindred, happy to see one of my crew mentioned

http://jimromenesko.com/2012/02/14/young-sports-journalists-who-could-be-columnists/
 
I see now this is being discussed on the other thread, where I didn't think to look. Oh well - I figure it deserves its own. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
 
Not as rare as I'd like it to be - but I only get .37 DB demerits because a thread-worthy discussion was hidden in another thread. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
 
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Sam Mellinger is the K.C. Star's columnist. Not as good as Poz, not as stoopid as Whitless.
 
Quite a few on that list are already columnists. There are a few more who have already been columnists before layoffs came down.
 
Moderator1 said:
Interesting look by Dave Kindred, happy to see one of my crew mentioned

http://jimromenesko.com/2012/02/14/young-sports-journalists-who-could-be-columnists/


At first, I was pissed I didn't see my name on there.

And then I realized I'm not "young" any more.

So I take away from this the comfort (delusion?) that I'm not included on that list ONLY because I'm too old.
 
I love Kindred, but there are some writers on that list who are on absolutely no one's radar to become columnists.

And considering how many on that list have been columnists for a long, long time, I'm guessing very little thought was put into it.

Jerry Brewer has been a columnist for over a decade.
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
I love Kindred, but there are some writers on that list who are on absolutely no one's radar to become columnists.

And considering how many on that list have been columnists for a long, long time, I'm guessing very little thought was put into it.

Jerry Brewer has been a columnist for over a decade.

Totally agree.
Also, I wish I could get with Dave's view on Simmons, but I can't. It's really sad that wanting to write like a passionate fan is something to be aspired to. I wanna have a little talk with those kids.
 
I'm a plenty big Kindred fan, but I don't understand the point of this exercise.
 
beardpuller said:
Mizzougrad96 said:
I love Kindred, but there are some writers on that list who are on absolutely no one's radar to become columnists.

And considering how many on that list have been columnists for a long, long time, I'm guessing very little thought was put into it.

Jerry Brewer has been a columnist for over a decade.

Totally agree.
Also, I wish I could get with Dave's view on Simmons, but I can't. It's really sad that wanting to write like a passionate fan is something to be aspired to. I wanna have a little talk with those kids.

I could understand why you wouldn't want all people to aspire to this. But why is it an illegitimate goal for some? What's wrong with being entertaining and informative from a different viewpoint.
 
I understand the exercise, but to release a list like that which has many, many writers who are, or have been columnists even at major papers like the KC Star, Seattle Times, Baltimore Sun, makes Kindred look pretty stupid.

I love when a legend gives props to young writers, and I'm sure Kindred's motives are pure, but he probably should have put more thought into this before putting it out.
 
Who the **** is David Hough for the Sun-Times? David Haugh of the Trib, however, is a pretty good columnist.
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
I understand the exercise, but to release a list like that which has many, many writers who are, or have been columnists even at major papers like the KC Star, Seattle Times, Baltimore Sun, makes Kindred look pretty stupid.

I love when a legend gives props to young writers, and I'm sure Kindred's motives are pure, but he probably should have put more thought into this before putting it out.

Might help if you read the column again and read the late entries on the "Columnistosaurus" thread. I tried to clarify this on that thread. The column said some of the people on the list "may be" columnists, some "may be" over 40 (by a touch). I have admitted the more precise verb would have been "are." Both my sources and I knew there were columnists on the list. The point of the column was that not all young talent at newspapers has migrated to ESPN and lesser websites (yet).
 
Dave Kindred said:
Mizzougrad96 said:
I understand the exercise, but to release a list like that which has many, many writers who are, or have been columnists even at major papers like the KC Star, Seattle Times, Baltimore Sun, makes Kindred look pretty stupid.

I love when a legend gives props to young writers, and I'm sure Kindred's motives are pure, but he probably should have put more thought into this before putting it out.

Might help if you read the column again and read the late entries on the "Columnistosaurus" thread. I tried to clarify this on that thread. The column said some of the people on the list "may be" columnists, some "may be" over 40 (by a touch). I have admitted the more precise verb would have been "are." Both my sources and I knew there were columnists on the list. The point of the column was that not all young talent at newspapers has migrated to ESPN and lesser websites (yet).

Actually, the excerpt said:

Still, the list was instructive because the people on it – if I trust my sources, and I do – are young, good, and committed to journalism, be it done in newsprint or on a website.

So if that's not what the column said, then Romenesko sure took you out of context! Because what you typed above, and what you typed right there, sure seem to be at odds.
 
Dave Kindred said:
Mizzougrad96 said:
I understand the exercise, but to release a list like that which has many, many writers who are, or have been columnists even at major papers like the KC Star, Seattle Times, Baltimore Sun, makes Kindred look pretty stupid.

I love when a legend gives props to young writers, and I'm sure Kindred's motives are pure, but he probably should have put more thought into this before putting it out.

Might help if you read the column again and read the late entries on the "Columnistosaurus" thread. I tried to clarify this on that thread. The column said some of the people on the list "may be" columnists, some "may be" over 40 (by a touch). I have admitted the more precise verb would have been "are." Both my sources and I knew there were columnists on the list. The point of the column was that not all young talent at newspapers has migrated to ESPN and lesser websites (yet).

I let it sit for a while when you posted that, but I'm not buying it. You said, "So I asked four well-connected friends who know these things to help me make up a list of 20-under-40 at newspapers who could be columnists." If you asked me for my top 3-year-old colts and I gave you a bunch of 5-year-olds and even some mares who'd already been bred, you'd say sorry, Frank, not what I'm looking for, but maybe you have some good picks in the AL East.

You're a Triple Crown winner and some newspaper company should have paid millions to have you stand at stud (hey!), but in this particular Grade III race at National Sports Center Downs, the top three finishers were Mailed It In, I Can't Get No Editing and More Like Bill Simmons Than I Think. Fact-Checker Charlie stumbled out of the gate and broke his bull**** detector, and was humanely destroyed.
 
Frank_Ridgeway said:
I let it sit for a while when you posted that, but I'm not buying it. You said, "So I asked four well-connected friends who know these things to help me make up a list of 20-under-40 at newspapers who could be columnists." If you asked me for my top 3-year-old colts and I gave you a bunch of 5-year-olds and even some mares who'd already been bred, you'd say sorry, Frank, not what I'm looking for, but maybe you have some good picks in the AL East.

You're a Triple Crown winner and some newspaper company should have paid millions to have you stand at stud (hey!), but in this particular Grade III race at National Sports Center Downs, the top three finishers were Mailed It In, I Can't Get No Editing and More Like Bill Simmons Than I Think. Fact-Checker Charlie stumbled out of the gate and broke his bull**** detector, and was humanely destroyed.

That was beautiful. You should be a columnist.
 

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