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This guy thinks closing the door on J schools is the answer. What do you think?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-sine/close-the-j-schools_b_232174.html
 
Absolutely, yes. It's completely irresponsible to be pumping out thousands of graduates per year when there are dozens of jobs to choose from.
 
RickStain said:
Absolutely, yes. It's completely irresponsible to be pumping out thousands of graduates per year when there are dozens of jobs to choose from.

Give me a break. You think they'd ever close down automotive schools with the state of that industry?

Survival of the fittest.
 
zebracoy said:
RickStain said:
Absolutely, yes. It's completely irresponsible to be pumping out thousands of graduates per year when there are dozens of jobs to choose from.

Give me a break. You think they'd ever close down automotive schools with the state of that industry?

Survival of the fittest.

Do automotive schools teach you to make cars? I did not know that.
 
My brother went to a trade school owned and operated by General Motors with the intent of sending him into the business of building cars - which he has now done for 20-plus years.

Sadly, that will end this fall, but that's another story for another time and place.
 
Brilliant. English departments also should turn away prospective majors and graduate students since there are very few jobs practicing professional English these days. Same with history. Really off-target and shallow column.
 
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DisembodiedOwlHead said:
Brilliant. English departments also should turn away prospective majors and graduate students since there are very few jobs practicing professional English these days. Same with history. Really off-target and shallow column.

English and history are not meaningfully comparable to journalism.
 
DisembodiedOwlHead said:
Brilliant. English departments also should turn away prospective majors and graduate students since there are very few jobs practicing professional English these days. Same with history. Really off-target and shallow column.

I don't think the bachelor's in English is too valuable, but you can always teach Comp 101 at community college with a master's in English.
 
Business schools provide little value as well, but the writer of the original column thought they were pretty great.
 
There are tons of worthless majors out there... Unfortunately, journalism is every bit as worthless as communications or philosophy. I used to make fun of all the athletes majoring in sociology, but I would kill to be able to switch my degree and Masters to Soc rather than journalism.
 
They should let much fewer people in. Schools should also work on degrees where you train for a few different careers. You can longer have a degree that is only good for one thing. I feel like I am qualified to teach english or be in advertising or PR, but since I don't have a degree in those fields, employers won't give me a chance.
 
I told my J-school this about five years ago, when they sent a letter hitting me for contributions.
 
Stitch said:
Business schools provide little value as well, but the writer of the original column thought they were pretty great.

Who here would trade their journalism degree for a business degree right now? I sure as hell would.
 
I used to teach a bit at a local J-school, but a couple years ago I told them I couldn't in good conscience do anything that would encourage kids from going into a field that will be extinct in a matter of years.
 
J-schools will stay open as long as there are people willing to pony up the tuition. But I imagine j schools aren't getting a lot of help from the industry these days. I could see a day when the curriculum is rolled into a "government" or "Public policy" school.
 
I have an English degree. Without it, I couldn't be a substitute teacher. I could have majored in anything and as long as I have a BA, I could be a sub. It is valuable and it has given me options now that my journalism career has become at best a freelance pursuit. I could become a lawyer, a copywriter, a teacher. I have decided to pursue a teaching credential and hope the freelance assignments don't run out before I complete the credential program.
 
A friend of mine once told me the one thing a college degree tells potential employers is that you can set a goal and achieve it. I still believe it doesn't matter what you major in as long as you can complete your degree. That said, I never found a journalism degree to be that valuable. I had a newspaper job long before I had a bachelors degree. And the best journalists I know majored in something other than journalism or communications. The best ones majored in political science. Oddly enough, English majors were in the minority at the papers I worked at.
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
There are tons of worthless majors out there... Unfortunately, journalism is every bit as worthless as communications or philosophy. I used to make fun of all the athletes majoring in sociology, but I would kill to be able to switch my degree and Masters to Soc rather than journalism.

What would you possibly do with a sociology degree? Teach, maybe.
 

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