Christian rock band does bait and switch with Iowa high school

[Smallpotatoes]

http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/dunkerton-high-school-assembly-stirs-protest/article_0f8c258b-2acd-5c64-bbb4-c7cb34fc22f6.html

The principal was led to believe the presentation was going to be about staying away from drugs and alcohol and have an anti-bullying message.
Instead, the band ended up bullying many of the students, using all sorts of scare tactics while talking about homosexuality, premarital sex, abortion, etc.

 

[zagoshe]

The people whining about tolerance are apparently OK with the fact that they are not tolerant of this band's beliefs.

 

[Smallpotatoes]

The people whining about tolerance are apparently OK with the fact that they are not tolerant of this band's beliefs.

When they have pulled-out-of-their-ass statistics like the median life span of a gay man is 42, the intollerance is understandable.

 

[Inky_Wretch]

The people whining about tolerance are apparently OK with the fact that they are not tolerant of this band's beliefs.

When they have pulled-out-of-their-ass statistics like the median life span of a gay man is 42, the intollerance is understandable.

Or when the anti-bullying message is replaced by bullying.

 

[JRoyal]

The people whining about tolerance are apparently OK with the fact that they are not tolerant of this band's beliefs.

The most ignorant defense of intolerance possible is to attack the other side as being intolerant. Just a cover-up for not being able to make a logical defense.

 

[zagoshe]

The people whining about tolerance are apparently OK with the fact that they are not tolerant of this band's beliefs.

When they have pulled-out-of-their-ass statistics like the median life span of a gay man is 42, the intollerance is understandable.

I've yet to see anyone, other than a whining parent who wasn't even there, say that this group said "the average life of a gay man is 42" which means it probably was not said and all of this was blown out of proportion by a few parents with second-hand knowledge of what was actually said.

 

[Inky_Wretch]

The people whining about tolerance are apparently OK with the fact that they are not tolerant of this band's beliefs.

When they have pulled-out-of-their-ass statistics like the median life span of a gay man is 42, the intollerance is understandable.

I've yet to see anyone, other than a whining parent who wasn't even there, say that this group said "the average life of a gay man is 42" which means it probably was not said and all of this was blown out of proportion by a few parents with second-hand knowledge of what was actually said.

Is a band member confirming the quote good enough?

McMillian did offer two images of aborted fetuses and a variety of informational slides touching on homosexuality that he said students also saw. Along the way, he also described how homosexuals die, on average, at the age of 42.

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[spikechiquet]

The people whining about tolerance are apparently OK with the fact that they are not tolerant of this band's beliefs.

When they have pulled-out-of-their-ass statistics like the median life span of a gay man is 42, the intollerance is understandable.

I've yet to see anyone, other than a whining parent who wasn't even there, say that this group said "the average life of a gay man is 42" which means it probably was not said and all of this was blown out of proportion by a few parents with second-hand knowledge of what was actually said.

The video of him saying that is on the band's website actually. Indefensible for the stuff he was saying without proof.

That said, I work for a Christian rock station and these guys...I've never heard of. It seems pretty crappy to pull that message out at a public school though...

 

[Baron Scicluna]

The people whining about tolerance are apparently OK with the fact that they are not tolerant of this band's beliefs.

Then why were the students shouted down or screamed at for being disrespectful when they tried to have an actual discussion with the band members?

Tolerance indeed.

 

[Azrael]

The people whining about tolerance are apparently OK with the fact that they are not tolerant of this band's beliefs.

Bride's Father: "You told us you were a 40's dance band."

Lead Guitarist: "We play speed metal."

BF: "But your brochure specifically says '40's dance band.' And when we hired you, you said you were a 40's dance band."

LG: "Speed metal."

BF: "But you've ruined my daughter's wedding reception."

LG: "You are intolerant."

Scene. Exit, pursued by a bear. Curtain.

 

[zagoshe]

Once again - like I wrote before - the band cited a study which said that gays die 20 years earlier than straight people.

I understand studies that don't produce the results the lefties and the think tanks want are always either biased or skewed (yet their studies are supposed to be accepted as the gospel truth) but the bottom line is this:

You hired a Christian rock band then were upset when they preached the gospel. That's like a church hiring a gay activist and then being upset when he talks about alternative life styles.

What do you expect them to talk about?

Further, i find it funny that the same people who will defend to death Muslims - one of the most intolerant and oppressive religions on the planet - and will rally in black churches -- where people are generally the most intolerant of gay lifestyles -- when they need to makes sure the black folks get out and vote, go ape **** every time an Evangelical -- generally read: White, American and conservative - talks about his or her beliefs.

This is political pandering and bull****.

NOBODY should have to apologize for their religious beliefs, even if they offend the sensibilities of the politically correct whiny assholes out there who are arrogant enough to believe that tolerance means we have to agree with them.

 

[Azrael]

Stop whining.

 

[Inky_Wretch]

Once again - like I wrote before - the band cited a study which said that gays die 20 years earlier than straight people.

Where did you write that? In a magical invisible font? Because you originally floated a denial it was said at all.

I've yet to see anyone, other than a whining parent who wasn't even there, say that this group said "the average life of a gay man is 42" which means it probably was not said and all of this was blown out of proportion by a few parents with second-hand knowledge of what was actually said.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

NOBODY should have to apologize for their religious beliefs, even if they offend the sensibilities of the politically correct whiny assholes out there who are arrogant enough to believe that tolerance means we have to agree with them.

Except for the Mooslims.

 

[Azrael]

"I ordered this car in blue."

"We only have candy apple orange with a shifting platinum - plum overspray."

"But I have a receipt documenting your agreement to sell me a blue car."

"Stop your politically correct whining."

 

[Big Circus]

A more pertinent question than the semantics and outrage on behalf of the oppressed believers: Why in the world was a Christian rock band the headliner of a public-school assembly?

 

[king cranium maximus IV]

"You're intolerant of my intolerance!"

"Why don't you hate Muslims?"

"Alternative lifestyle"

"Politically correct"

"But blacks are religious too! Hate on them!"

I've got BINGO! BINGO!

 

[Azrael]

A more pertinent question than the semantics and outrage on behalf of the oppressed believers: Why in the world was a Christian rock band the headliner of a public-school assembly?

Because no one is more oppressed than white middle-class heterosexual Christians.

 

[king cranium maximus IV]

A more pertinent question than the semantics and outrage on behalf of the oppressed believers: Why in the world was a Christian rock band the headliner of a public-school assembly?

Because these groups advertise themselves as non-religious feel-goodism, then turn on the bible-thumping jets when the adults leave the room. Shame on the school board for not doing their homework, and shame on these putzes for the bait-and-switch.

 

[JRoyal]

I love how zagoshe ignores the fact that the band misrepresented their intentions (i.e., lied, which last time I checked is still a bad things for Christians). That doesn't play into things at all. Nope, they were a Christian rock band, so the school district shoulda known they were gonna talk about abortion and gays dieing at 42. Because, I mean, every time I've ever seen a Christian artist perform (and I've seen plenty, including DC Talk, Jars of Clay, and Michael W. Smith), they always spend more time talking about that stuff than they do performing.

The bottom line is the group was brought in to talk about bullying. They turned it into a pulpit for something else. They crossed a line and became bullies themselves. This isn't about their message. It's about their tactics to spread that message (which is a message of hate, not love, and not Christian, in this Christian's estimation).