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Billy Monday

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A great piece of imaginative and realistic filmmaking about the future. Great performances by several actors. It's got action, suspense, drama. A real treat.
It also says a lot about mankind in the year 2007, depending how you interpret it.
 
This isn't the movie based on the "Y: The Last Man" comic book, is it?
 
Cadet said:
This isn't the movie based on the "Y: The Last Man" comic book, is it?
Loosely based on the P.D. James novel, "Children of Men."
 
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My Phoebe gave it a mere two stars of four, while numerous critics have put this film in their top three that they screened in 2006.
 
He's probably depressed because he's got so many damn questions that he can't answer after watching this movie.

Son of a *****, this plot, camerawork and acting had all the makings of an Academy Award winner. Seriously. It was that damn good.

But they shot that all to hell by taking the easy road and failing to explain ... well, pretty much everything. You've got no idea who some people are, what their relationships to one another are, why they're doing the **** that they're doing or what might happen if they accomplish their overall goal.

But far worse than that, and I don't think I'm spoiling anything here, the entire plot is centered around the fact that all the women of the world are infertile, yet they never even attempt to explain WHY THE HELL THAT IS.
 
dog428 said:
He's probably depressed because he's got so many damn questions that he can't answer after watching this movie.

Son of a *****, this plot, camerawork and acting had all the makings of an Academy Award winner. Seriously. It was that damn good.

But they shot that all to hell by taking the easy road and failing to explain ... well, pretty much everything. You've got no idea who some people are, what their relationships to one another are, why they're doing the **** that they're doing or what might happen if they accomplish their overall goal.

But far worse than that, and I don't think I'm spoiling anything here, the entire plot is centered around the fact that all the women of the world are infertile, yet they never even attempt to explain WHY THE HELL THAT IS.

Probably the Gay Agenda is what I'm thinking.
 
Huh. That would bother me, too, especially since we're currently in the midst of a worldwide twin epidemic.
 
A lot to chew on, like The Fountain, which also has a lot of questions.

It is not the best movie of the year. Babel is.
 
I told Dog that the movie was a heaping pile of ****. I'm standing by that.

I gotta say, though, there are some truly amazing sequences in that movie. Dare I say the "war" sequence was better than anything in Saving Private Ryan. One shot. One take. Breathtaking cinematography.

Just too ambiguous. The characters don't interact in a reasonable manner, relationships aren't explained/explored ... and there are a few plot "twists" that suck suck suck.
 
dog428 said:
He's probably depressed because he's got so many damn questions that he can't answer after watching this movie.

Son of a *****, this plot, camerawork and acting had all the makings of an Academy Award winner. Seriously. It was that damn good.

But they shot that all to hell by taking the easy road and failing to explain ... well, pretty much everything. You've got no idea who some people are, what their relationships to one another are, why they're doing the **** that they're doing or what might happen if they accomplish their overall goal.

But far worse than that, and I don't think I'm spoiling anything here, the entire plot is centered around the fact that all the women of the world are infertile, yet they never even attempt to explain WHY THE HELL THAT IS.

No need to explain that stuff.
The movie was quite good, although not as good as our critic thought it was.
 
dog428 said:
He's probably depressed because he's got so many damn questions that he can't answer after watching this movie.

Son of a *****, this plot, camerawork and acting had all the makings of an Academy Award winner. Seriously. It was that damn good.

But they shot that all to hell by taking the easy road and failing to explain ... well, pretty much everything. You've got no idea who some people are, what their relationships to one another are, why they're doing the **** that they're doing or what might happen if they accomplish their overall goal.

But far worse than that, and I don't think I'm spoiling anything here, the entire plot is centered around the fact that all the women of the world are infertile, yet they never even attempt to explain WHY THE HELL THAT IS.

dog428 said:
He's probably depressed because he's got so many damn questions that he can't answer after watching this movie.

Son of a *****, this plot, camerawork and acting had all the makings of an Academy Award winner. Seriously. It was that damn good.

But they shot that all to hell by taking the easy road and failing to explain ... well, pretty much everything. You've got no idea who some people are, what their relationships to one another are, why they're doing the **** that they're doing or what might happen if they accomplish their overall goal.

But far worse than that, and I don't think I'm spoiling anything here, the entire plot is centered around the fact that all the women of the world are infertile, yet they never even attempt to explain WHY THE HELL THAT IS.

SEMI-SPOILER ALERT.....


It's explained in the movie that it's not really known why all women became intertile. The theories on it ranged from religious to environmental.
 
How did it depress me? Much in the same way "War of the Worlds" depressed me.

Because so much of this world is populated with people who have dog**** for souls that if the world really crumbled, there'd be no point in saving it.

Or, **** it, maybe I should put Dye on my ignore list, who knows?
 
Billy Monday said:
dog428 said:
He's probably depressed because he's got so many damn questions that he can't answer after watching this movie.

Son of a *****, this plot, camerawork and acting had all the makings of an Academy Award winner. Seriously. It was that damn good.

But they shot that all to hell by taking the easy road and failing to explain ... well, pretty much everything. You've got no idea who some people are, what their relationships to one another are, why they're doing the **** that they're doing or what might happen if they accomplish their overall goal.

But far worse than that, and I don't think I'm spoiling anything here, the entire plot is centered around the fact that all the women of the world are infertile, yet they never even attempt to explain WHY THE HELL THAT IS.

dog428 said:
He's probably depressed because he's got so many damn questions that he can't answer after watching this movie.

Son of a *****, this plot, camerawork and acting had all the makings of an Academy Award winner. Seriously. It was that damn good.

But they shot that all to hell by taking the easy road and failing to explain ... well, pretty much everything. You've got no idea who some people are, what their relationships to one another are, why they're doing the **** that they're doing or what might happen if they accomplish their overall goal.

But far worse than that, and I don't think I'm spoiling anything here, the entire plot is centered around the fact that all the women of the world are infertile, yet they never even attempt to explain WHY THE HELL THAT IS.

SEMI-SPOILER ALERT.....


It's explained in the movie that it's not really known why all women became intertile. The theories on it ranged from religious to environmental.

Probably a few light spoilers here.


It's fine to leave things to the imagination. But you can't have the overall premise of the film be that they have to get this pregnant girl to the Human Project to save mankind and then never tell the audience why.

The infertility alone, I'm fine with someone saying, "****, no idea what's going on there, but it's bad." However, you can't base the film on the idea that this girl holds some sort of key to the future -- and stated or not, that's exactly what this film wants you to believe -- and not go into some sort of detail as to how she might change the course of fate. Even if the explanation is as simple as, We're not sure, you still have to attempt an explanation. Whenever a plot of a film revolves around characters trying desperately to achieve a goal of some sort, there has to be an explanation of why that goal is important to them.

In addition to that, the relationships between characters who obviously had long and twisting backgrounds together were never dealt with in any form. Take Julian and Theo, for example. It's obvious they were together at one time. Married? Don't know. Their child died, we know that. But did that lead to the split and to her way of life? How did she become so powerful in that particular orginization, when every other small trek back in time seems to indicate she was a normal mother and wife/girlfriend? And Theo and Jasper -- what's the story there? (Here's one I'm not sure about -- was it ever explained why Jasper's wife was tortured to the point of a vegetative state? I know that the torture was mentioned, but I don't recall an explanation.)

Basically, they lumped a group of people together, never explained who they were or how they were related to one another and focused on a couple of days in which they were trying to accomplish something for reasons that weren't clear.
 
dog428 said:
Billy Monday said:
dog428 said:
He's probably depressed because he's got so many damn questions that he can't answer after watching this movie.

Son of a *****, this plot, camerawork and acting had all the makings of an Academy Award winner. Seriously. It was that damn good.

But they shot that all to hell by taking the easy road and failing to explain ... well, pretty much everything. You've got no idea who some people are, what their relationships to one another are, why they're doing the **** that they're doing or what might happen if they accomplish their overall goal.

But far worse than that, and I don't think I'm spoiling anything here, the entire plot is centered around the fact that all the women of the world are infertile, yet they never even attempt to explain WHY THE HELL THAT IS.

dog428 said:
He's probably depressed because he's got so many damn questions that he can't answer after watching this movie.

Son of a *****, this plot, camerawork and acting had all the makings of an Academy Award winner. Seriously. It was that damn good.

But they shot that all to hell by taking the easy road and failing to explain ... well, pretty much everything. You've got no idea who some people are, what their relationships to one another are, why they're doing the **** that they're doing or what might happen if they accomplish their overall goal.

But far worse than that, and I don't think I'm spoiling anything here, the entire plot is centered around the fact that all the women of the world are infertile, yet they never even attempt to explain WHY THE HELL THAT IS.

SEMI-SPOILER ALERT.....


It's explained in the movie that it's not really known why all women became intertile. The theories on it ranged from religious to environmental.

Probably a few light spoilers here.


It's fine to leave things to the imagination. But you can't have the overall premise of the film be that they have to get this pregnant girl to the Human Project to save mankind and then never tell the audience why.

The infertility alone, I'm fine with someone saying, "****, no idea what's going on there, but it's bad." However, you can't base the film on the idea that this girl holds some sort of key to the future -- and stated or not, that's exactly what this film wants you to believe -- and not go into some sort of detail as to how she might change the course of fate. Even if the explanation is as simple as, We're not sure, you still have to attempt an explanation.

Light spoilers.....


Totally disagree. You think they need to go into detail about how she might change the course of mankind's fate?
It was the first baby on Earth in 18 years!!!
What more explanation is necessary about how that could change mankind's future?
A movie that dumbs itself down to explain everything too much ruins the movie. This movie seemed realistic because the characters weren't constantly explaining backstory in their dialogue (which people don't do in normal real-life conversations). It let you pick up the clues and enjoy the realistic ride.
 

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