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Courtesy of Marc Topkin of the St. Pete Times:

"It was big news in Chicago that the Cubs had worked a deal to acquire Matt Garza from the Rays. But the Chicago Sun-Times had a bigger surprise for its readers this morning with this back page photo - of former Ray Joaquin Benoit (who recently signed with the Tigers).

Rays radio man Dave Wills, back home in Chicago for the week, passed it on this morning."

Here's the link with the image, sorry I couldn't get it on here myself: http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/rays/content/chicago-paper-strikes-out
 
Does Dave Wills still talk about Chicago, his love of the White Sox and his hatred of the Cubs & Wrigley Field during every game?

It must have killed him when the Six won the Series the year after he left.
 
The mistake stems from a bad cutline from AP photog. The Daily Herald ran the same picture. That's what I figured when this story broke. Anyone with pagination experience knows of a wrong cutline.
 
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They both have the same facial hair, too. And Benoit is only slightly darker-skinned than Garza.

No one should lose their job over this one.
 
Cousin Jeffrey said:
The mistake stems from a bad cutline from AP photog. The Daily Herald ran the same picture. That's what I figured when this story broke. Anyone with pagination experience knows of a wrong cutline.

Heck yes. I have no idea who the two players are in question, so I could have made that mistake. AP's human too, but they can take down a lot of folks with bad cutlines.
 
playthrough said:
Cousin Jeffrey said:
The mistake stems from a bad cutline from AP photog. The Daily Herald ran the same picture. That's what I figured when this story broke. Anyone with pagination experience knows of a wrong cutline.

Heck yes. I have no idea who the two players are in question, so I could have made that mistake. AP's human too, but they can take down a lot of folks with bad cutlines.

Hell, I've made that mistake, thanks to AP cutlines!
 
College football can be dangerous in this regard, since some players share numbers.

On Florida this season, both QB Trey Burton and CB Jeremy Brown wore No. 8. I saw more than one photo move across the wire with either Burton or Brown misidentified.
 
Is Cowley the same guy who had a big half season for the bad Yanks of the early 90s?
 
Sorry, no free pass. That's inexcusable. You're at a metro for a reason. Yes, AP screwed up, but AP frequently screws up. If you're at a metro, you learned that lesson two papers ago.

You've also learned you have to catch the bad hops. This was the cover, not some last-minute photo thrown at you to fill an inside page.

Any good baseball editor knows that's not Garza. Now, whether the designer selected the photo without consulting anybody, that's another issue. I'm guessing that's what happened.
 
1HPGrad said:
Sorry, no free pass. That's inexcusable. You're at a metro for a reason. Yes, AP screwed up, but AP frequently screws up. If you're at a metro, you learned that lesson two papers ago.

You've also learned you have to catch the bad hops. This was the cover, not some last-minute photo thrown at you to fill an inside page.

Any good baseball editor knows that's not Garza. Now, whether the designer selected the photo without consulting anybody, that's another issue. I'm guessing that's what happened.
Always good to hear from the "never-made-a-mistake-in-my-life" crowd.
 
1HPGrad said:
Sorry, no free pass. That's inexcusable. You're at a metro for a reason. Yes, AP screwed up, but AP frequently screws up. If you're at a metro, you learned that lesson two papers ago.

You've also learned you have to catch the bad hops. This was the cover, not some last-minute photo thrown at you to fill an inside page.

Any good baseball editor knows that's not Garza. Now, whether the designer selected the photo without consulting anybody, that's another issue. I'm guessing that's what happened.

Any good baseball editor?

Have you worked at a newspaper in the past couple decades?
 
I'm saying that is one of the big losses of the pared-down copy desks and the loss of experience that replacing veterans with rookies has meant.

It should have been caught by someone on the desk, at the very latest, by someone in the newsroom when the first edition was printed and distributed in the office. I haven't worked inside a newsroom for five years, but gosh, i hope the night crews still thumb through the paper after first edition.
 
Night crews?

You mean the five folks who have way too much to do?

Nah, mistakes happen. No one should get fired over this.

If this were 7 years ago? Maybe.
 
I've made plenty (and, yes, Ace, as a "baseball editor," a "college editor," "fill in the sport" editor ... ), including a stupid one in a special section that Miami talk shows had a field day with.
I've also caught plenty more, just like this. Again, you're at a metro for a reason.
The standards and stakes are higher.
You guys have a relaxed, "Oh, well, what can you do, AP screwed us" attitude.
That wouldn't fly at the three metros I worked. At 1HP, they would have called my ass at 5:30 a.m. with questions I wouldn't want to answer. (Mile_High, you ever get any of those?? Lovely conversations.)
I'm sure it didn't fly in Chicago. Not saying somebody needs to be fired. Just saying somebody has to be accountable. It's not acceptable. It's not even close to being acceptable. One look at that photo and you know that's not Garza.
 

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