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slappy4428 said:
Turn to him and say, "Hey! You've got my pages there! You going to enter them in a contest? That's great! Which one is it?"

And if he blows it off, yeah, let the ME know what's up...

I agree with Slappy. Just say you happened to notice it on his desk. Bust his ass.
 
First off it's bull**** if he doesn't invite you to enter anything in the contest to begin with. I might approach him about that, say you want to enter some of the pages you have done, and not mention what you know. If he allows you to enter the pages you can find out if it was an honest mistake or if he's trying to pull one over on you.
 
If it were me: I'd get his attention when alone with him and gently remind him that they're your pages and you would like to enter into the contest. Don't embarass or accuse but state the facts and don't back down. Look at it this way, your relationship is already cold it won't get much worse.
 
A different kind of cheating, but bull**** nonetheless: A guy at my shop came over from a paper near the area and told a story about one of the photogs there who got a great sports shot, but there was no ball in the frame. So he photoshopped a ball from an earlier frame onto that one and it ran in the paper. He later won an award for it.
 
bigpern23 said:
A different kind of cheating, but bull**** nonetheless: A guy at my shop came over from a paper near the area and told a story about one of the photo gs there who got a great sports shot, but there was no ball in the frame. So he photoshopped a ball from an earlier frame onto that one and it ran in the paper. He later won an award for it.
bigpern23 said:
A different kind of cheating, but bull**** nonetheless: A guy at my shop came over from a paper near the area and told a story about one of the photo gs there who got a great sports shot, but there was no ball in the frame. So he photoshopped a ball from an earlier frame onto that one and it ran in the paper. He later won an award for it.

Not only does that dump on every ethical practice of photojournalism, it is actually fraud.
There is a "manipulation clause" in our freelance fogo form that states our Lil sweatshop can sue you if decided your foto needed a ball.
 
dude, these are anonymous people giving you advice. leave it alone. the guy is gonna smile in your face and tell you what you wanna hear, and he'll spend the rest of his career stabbing you in the back. LET IT GO...contest junkies aren't much different from crackheads. let it go.
 
jason_whitlock said:
dude, these are anonymous people giving you advice. leave it alone. the guy is gonna smile in your face and tell you what you wanna hear, and he'll spend the rest of his career stabbing you in the back. LET IT GO...contest junkies aren't much different from crackheads. let it go.

And then there are those people who stand around instead of standing for what's right because they're afraid of a little conflict. Those people are just as bad. Do what's right. Not easy.
 
Write-brained said:
jason_whitlock said:
dude, these are anonymous people giving you advice. leave it alone. the guy is gonna smile in your face and tell you what you wanna hear, and he'll spend the rest of his career stabbing you in the back. LET IT GO...contest junkies aren't much different from crackheads. let it go.

And then there are those people who stand around instead of standing for what's right because they're afraid of a little conflict. Those people are just as bad. Do what's right. Not easy.

contests are not worth shedding any blood over. that's what i'm trying to convey to the dude. he's fighting a battle he'll never win and he's fighting a battle that's not even worth it.... i love a good scrap. but you guys are telling this guy to go in the street and fight someone who has absolutely no intention of fighting or surrendering.
 
If this doesn't cause the apocalypse -- or at least crash the board -- nothing will:

I agree 100% with Jason on this.
Let it go.
 
Call me a militant idealist but taking credit for someone else's work is plagiarism and you shouldn't give the guy the opportunity. Aren't you just as guilty if you let it happen? Maybe. Plus, if you let him walk on you once he'll walk on you again and again. Stand up for yourself. If you got a wife and a kid, then sure proceed with caution but if not there's worse things than looking for a new job. Better than being a doormat.
 
I'd confront him.

If he's dishonest with contest crap. I'd wonder how much other stuff is he dishonest with. Does he make up **** and publish it as fact? Are his stories just a load of plagiarism?

It'd be hard for me to work with that person knowing he was cheating about something that trivial.
 
It doesn't help anyone to let this guy get away with taking credit for work he didn't do and to allow him to take advantage of you by 1.) Not allowing/encouraging you to enter the contest, or 2.) undermining the work you did by not allowing you to get the credit for it. The contest may not be that big a deal, but the issue is bigger than the contest and you have a right to own your work. Also, if the SE is designing pages on a regular basis, I doubt he is in the position to have the power/connections to ruin the rest of your life.
 
OneMoreRead said:
I'd confront him.

If he's dishonest with contest crap. I'd wonder how much other stuff is he dishonest with. Does he make up **** and publish it as fact? Are his stories just a load of plagiarism?

It'd be hard for me to work with that person knowing he was cheating about something that trivial.

Amen.
There's no reason this has to be an argument, this guy just has to talk to his editor in a tactful way, give him an out and move on. Maybe it was a mistake. But we're in an integrity driven business, you have to hold others accountable as well as yourself.
 
i'm with whitlock only because as the s.e., he could make things miserable for you.

but you should also screw his girlfriend/wife/daughter and give him photos on your last day working there.
 
jason_whitlock said:
dude, these are anonymous people giving you advice. leave it alone. the guy is gonna smile in your face and tell you what you wanna hear, and he'll spend the rest of his career stabbing you in the back. LET IT GO...contest junkies aren't much different from crackheads. let it go.

The poster calling himself Jason Whitlock (hey, you never know who is really hitting those keys. Not sure you care, either.) raises a point worth considering. I happen to disagree with it, simply because there is a way to bring this up without it being a fight. Some of us understand how to do things tactfully. Others don't.

Just don't drop everything because he played the anonymous card again. I know who a few of the other people posting here are, and their opinions are every bit as valid.
 
jason_whitlock said:
dude, these are anonymous people giving you advice. leave it alone. the guy is gonna smile in your face and tell you what you wanna hear, and he'll spend the rest of his career stabbing you in the back. LET IT GO...contest junkies aren't much different from crackheads. let it go.
No. What happens if he submits his work for a later job and it's noticed by someone who's seen it before from his boss.
Since the boss won an award for it and that's all the potential employer has to go by, it's going to make incognito look like HE'S taking credit for his boss's section...
 
slappy4428 said:
jason_whitlock said:
dude, these are anonymous people giving you advice. leave it alone. the guy is gonna smile in your face and tell you what you wanna hear, and he'll spend the rest of his career stabbing you in the back. LET IT GO...contest junkies aren't much different from crackheads. let it go.
No. What happens if he submits his work for a later job and it's noticed by someone who's seen it before from his boss.
Since the boss won an award for it and that's all the potential employer has to go by, it's going to make incognito look like HE'S taking credit for his boss's section...

But we're anonymous! We couldn't possibly be able to help this guy out!
 
there's no way to bring this up without it being a "fight." the guy is a snake and you can't believe a word he says. let it go. you can't fight the crackheads unless you're willing to get on crack. let it go.
 

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