CBSSports.com: Who do coaches think are the big cheaters?

[imjustagirl]

This "article" rubbed me the wrong way, despite Parrish's sidestep in the first graf of his part. I don't know if I can really put my finger on it, but just giving coaches carte blanche to label others as cheaters with only gut instincts and rumors, and not having to put their name on it ... I don't know. Just seems sketchy to me.

Am I overreacting?

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/19767908/critical-coaches-who-is-perceived-to-be-the-biggest-cheater-in-the-sport

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I'm surprised they allowed something like that to run, even though it's interesting as hell...

It's kind of like "The A-list" for college coaches.

 

[imjustagirl]

It's kind of like "The A-list" for college coaches.

Hahahahahahaha.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Man, that column is some bull****. Whoever thought "Hey! Let's let the sleaziest group of people we know take anonymous potshots at each other!" has really lost his grip on what's supposed to be going on.

Next up: We ask agents, who lies? My money is on Drew Rosenhaus.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I'm just waiting for them to refer to a coach as a Friend of Dorothy...

 

[Bob Slydell]

I agree, kind of bad form to let coaches just anonymously take shots at each other. However, I dind it funny Calipari and Drew got 70 percent of the votes.

 

[imjustagirl]

I agree, kind of bad form to let coaches just anonymously take shots at each other. However, I dind it funny Calipari and Drew got 70 percent of the votes.

Unsurprising. The quote about Calipari was great.

 

[Bob Slydell]

I agree, kind of bad form to let coaches just anonymously take shots at each other. However, I dind it funny Calipari and Drew got 70 percent of the votes.

Unsurprising. The quote about Calipari was great.

Yes it was. And accurate I'm sure.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Calipari and Drew were no-brainers...

 

[Bob Slydell]

Calipari and Drew were no-brainers...

Figured Calhoun would get more votes since he has actually been penalized for actually cheating.

 

[Dick Whitman]

OK, I read the first post, and I'm going to guess and then go look:

1) John Calipari
2) Scott Drew
3) Jim Calhoun
4) Tim Floyd?
5) Billy Donovan?
6) Tommy Amaker?
7) Bill Self?
8) Rick Pitino?
9) Steve Alford?
10) Jay Wright?

EDIT: I wonder if Crean gets votes for the same reason that Drew does - because of all the God stuff. I bet 80 percent of his Twitter posts are about God.

 

[da man]

I'm surprised Drew didn't win just because of their self-righteous bull**** mentioned in that comment.

 

[Elliotte Friedman]

The whole series -- most underrated/overrated coach, how influential is Worldwide Wes -- has been really interesting to read.

Totally understand IJAG's point about allowing guys who probably cheat just as bad to anonymously rip each other, but I enjoyed every word. Wonder if Calipari and Drew were among those interviewed.

 

[da man]

The whole series -- most underrated/overrated coach, how influential is Worldwide Wes -- has been really interesting to read.

Totally understand IJAG's point about allowing guys who probably cheat just as bad to anonymously rip each other, but I enjoyed every word. Wonder if Calipari and Drew were among those interviewed.

They probably provided the quotes about each other.

 

[ColdCat]

EDIT: I wonder if Crean gets votes for the same reason that Drew does - because of all the God stuff. I bet 80 percent of his Twitter posts are about God.

I'm guessing Crean gets mentioned because people wonder how a team that was downright terrible before he arrived is suddenly good again. How he did it was simple, he's winning the in-state recruiting battles now. And it's not with suitcases full of cash. People in Indiana want IU to be good. (Well, outside of Tippecanoe County anyway.) It just seems natural to them. So some coach arrives at a 17 year old's door in Indianapolis and says "Would you like to help me put IU back where it belongs" of course he's saying yes.

I'm just waiting for them to refer to a coach as a Friend of Dorothy...

They would get plenty of that if they asked women's basketball coaches (especially back in Rene Portland's heyday with PSU)

 

[lcjjdnh]

How dare John Calipari allow athletes to benefit from the millions they bring in for the school? Doesn't he know he's supposed to help suppress wages so schools can afford to pay college coaches their six- and seven-figure salaries?

But, yes, pretty absurd CBS allows a bunch of millionaires to air their petty grievances about each other anonymously--especially since all the quotes lack any real proof, and appear to be based on sour-puss losers believing anyone better than them must cheat. Parrish trying to wiggle around the lack of credibility of the question--it's about perception--is pretty cowardly. The equivalent of "I'm not a racist, but...".

 

[Appgrad05]

EDIT: I wonder if Crean gets votes for the same reason that Drew does - because of all the God stuff. I bet 80 percent of his Twitter posts are about God.

I'm guessing Crean gets mentioned because people wonder how a team that was downright terrible before he arrived is suddenly good again. How he did it was simple, he's winning the in-state recruiting battles now. And it's not with suitcases full of cash. People in Indiana want IU to be good. (Well, outside of Tippecanoe County anyway.) It just seems natural to them. So some coach arrives at a 17 year old's door in Indianapolis and says "Would you like to help me put IU back where it belongs" of course he's saying yes.

I'm just waiting for them to refer to a coach as a Friend of Dorothy...

They would get plenty of that if they asked women's basketball coaches (especially back in Rene Portland's heyday with PSU)

There's some truth to that, but there was also quite a bit of luck and being in the right place at the right time. All the recruits came in a row, and were influenced by each other.
He got Victor Oladipo and Will Sheehey because he missed on Kyrie Irving, Josh Selby and Jelan Kendrick. Both were fringe top-150 players at the time. And Austin Etherington committed because Crean believed in him when he was coming off microfracture surgery. Ron Patterson and Peter Jurkin both just wanted to go somewhere where they felt they could play, so they committed. And Hanner Perea has ties to Jurkin and Bloomington through A-Hope (and Baylor was threatening to deport him at the same time), so he committed. And Crean convinced Cody Zeller that Indiana was the Indiana of yore, and made sure he felt comfortable there. So then he gets Yogi Ferrell, and it's easy for Jeremy Hollowell to sign up that spring.
None of those guys grew up bleeding for IU. Probably only Jordan Hulls was once that way, but he became a Duke fan when the RMK stuff happened and had to be wooed back by Crean.

 

[Point of Order]

Next up: Who do skunks think are the smelliest animals?

 

[User 4332]

EDIT: I wonder if Crean gets votes for the same reason that Drew does - because of all the God stuff. I bet 80 percent of his Twitter posts are about God.

I'm guessing Crean gets mentioned because people wonder how a team that was downright terrible before he arrived is suddenly good again. How he did it was simple, he's winning the in-state recruiting battles now. And it's not with suitcases full of cash. People in Indiana want IU to be good. (Well, outside of Tippecanoe County anyway.) It just seems natural to them. So some coach arrives at a 17 year old's door in Indianapolis and says "Would you like to help me put IU back where it belongs" of course he's saying yes.

I'm just waiting for them to refer to a coach as a Friend of Dorothy...

They would get plenty of that if they asked women's basketball coaches (especially back in Rene Portland's heyday with PSU)

If only he was showing up on the doorsteps of 17-year-olds. Crean's recruiting tactics leave a bad taste in the mouth. He's routinely giving scholarship offers to high school freshmen, occasionally to 8th graders (see Lyles, Trey), and has over signed his scholarship limits. Unfortunately since he's focused intensely on recruits in Indiana, at a time the state has had a particularly deep pool of elite talent, Matt Painter has followed his lead into the early offers. And then there was that unfortunate tweet of his.

I'm glad to see IU back in the mix of getting the home state talent to stay home, and college basketball is better when IU is good. But it's not like there is zero reason for the perception that Crean may be crossing the lines.

 

[JackS]

Next up: Who do skunks think are the smelliest animals?

Beautiful.