Buh . . . but . . . I thought Michael Moore didn't care about profits!

[Piotr Rasputin]

He's an American crusader!

Get the truth out!

The little guy!

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2011/02/michael-moore-harvey-weinstein-fahrenheit-911.html

(I don't care about someone seeking what they feel they are rightfully entitled to. I just laugh that this guy who paints himself - and is held up by others - as some kind of altruistic soul, wants his damn money just like the rest of us)

 

[LongTimeListener]

Yep, and Al Gore turns the lights on in his house so he can't care about the environment. At least the wingnuts have something to talk about for the next four days in hopes that Rep. Ripped Biceps fades and Rep. Don't Call Me Boner Boehner tries to dodge the National Enquirer.

 

[Piotr Rasputin]

Yep, and Al Gore turns the lights on in his house so he can't care about the environment. At least the wingnuts have something to talk about for the next four days in hopes that Rep. Ripped Biceps fades and Rep. Don't Call Me Boner Boehner tries to dodge the National Enquirer.

My point was more about the idealistic narrative that people like to assign to their heroes or people who produce work they enjoy. Again, Moore should seek what is his, even if that pokes a hole in his preferred narrative.

But any chance to do the whole "WINGNUTS!!!!" dance, will obviously not be allowed to pass.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Your point was that Michael Moore likes to be paid for his work and therefore he is a hypocrite because he tried to do something meaningful with said work and therefore should forgo any claim to profits. That is a stupid and lame point.

 

[TigerVols]

Who considers Michael Moore a hero? He's hated by the right far more than he's beloved by the left.

Nice trolling, though, Peter.

 

[mustangj17]

Your point was that Michael Moore likes to be paid for his work and therefore he is a hypocrite because he tried to do something meaningful with said work and therefore should forgo any claim to profits. That is a stupid and lame point.

On behalf of Sportsjournalists.com, I would like to ask you two knuckleheads to take this to a PM.

 

[Stitch]

I never thought Moore was a guy who worked for free. I don't know who did. And this works with the narrative some assign to him as he's fighting a corporation.

 

[Piotr Rasputin]

I never thought Moore was a guy who worked for free. I don't know who did. And this works with the narrative some assign to him as he's fighting a corporation.

No one said he works for free, or that he should. They do say that he's out to educate, with profits secondary to that mission. The fact that, six years later, he's asking for MORE money is worth noting.

Nice point regarding the corporation.

Who considers Michael Moore a hero? He's hated by the right far more than he's beloved by the left.

Nice trolling, though, Peter.

The final demise of the Politics board removed a very interesting thread that would dispute this. And even if he's "more hated by the right than beloved by the left," that would make me ask: who is paying to see his films? And why would intense hatred from conservatives negate the idea of love from the left?

He is quite admired as a filmmaker, and rightfully so. He knows how to make a point, even if it's not the usual detached "documentary" style. Let's not act like he doesn't have an intense fan base.

Your point was that Michael Moore likes to be paid for his work and therefore he is a hypocrite because he tried to do something meaningful with said work and therefore should forgo any claim to profits. That is a stupid and lame point.

It's amazing to have one's posts so completely misread on a site for journalists.

 

[93Devil]

What does he do with his money?

What would Weinstein do with it?

 

[LongTimeListener]

Your headline says you "thought Michael Moore didn't care about profits!" You've since been forcedto back off that and had to admit that "no one said he works for free or that he should." Now who's misreading and misleading?

All in all, a really dumb thread and a poor attempt at the end-around of the ban on political discussion, using the No. 1 symbol of what conservatives like to think all people who didn't vote for George W. Bush are about. Maybe you could close it up with the picture of John Kerry hunting.

 

[Piotr Rasputin]

What does he do with his money?

What would Weinstein do with it?

And here we see an attempt to return to the narrative, which I have been told doesn't exist.

Who cares? It's Moore's money. And if the court finds that it's Weinstein's, he can do with it as he pleases.

Your headline says you "thought Michael Moore didn't care about profits!" You've since been forcedto back off that and had to admit that "no one said he works for free or that he should." Now who's misreading and misleading?

All in all, a really dumb thread and a poor attempt at the end-around of the ban on political discussion, using the No. 1 symbol of what conservatives like to think all people who didn't vote for George W. Bush are about. Maybe you could close it up with the picture of John Kerry hunting.

I suppose these things are there if you have them in your head before reading, and then don't actually bother to read.

Please stop trying to bring politics into this thread in a transparent, shameless attempt to get it locked.

 

[slappy4428]

I consider myself more left than right. And Michael Moore is a douchebag on this side of the fence, too.

 

[BTExpress]

They do say that he's out to educate, with profits secondary to that mission.

There are 310 million people in the country.

So I guess you can find two people somewhere who said that. So I guess those two are "they."

 

[JR]

Michael Moore has more entrepreneurial spirit than 3/4 of the people who like to trash him.

He may be a douchebag from time to time but to say he EVER claimed to be Mr. Altruism and doesn't care about profits is nonsense.

And if someone's suing a film company for withholding profits, nine times out of ten you know they're probably right.

As someone once joked, "Why did God invent the music industry? To make the film industry look good"

 

[steveu]

Let's just say Michael Moore found out about creative accounting. Ah, Hollywood. The land where accounting departments can say Paranormal Activity and its sequel lost money. (Don't believe me? Look at how much those movies made and how much they cost. And I'm just using these movies as examples.)

 

[The Big Ragu]

I think Michael Moore is transparently full of it. The fact that some people refuse to see it (but more and more do. Capitalism, his attempt to well, capitalize on the financial meltdown, bombed, and thankfully he has taken a break), has always bugged me.

I don't know if his claim has any basis. With him, I hold out the possibility it does, because he's full of ****. Although when the other party is the Weinsteins, I think it is fair to say there are no winners. If his claim does have merit, though, the first thing I thought of was TV Nation.

I wouldn't have pointed to this as evidence that he's a hypocrite, except for what he did when he produced TV Nation. I know this firsthand from two writers on the show who are as honest and hard working guys as you will ever meet. 1) He tried to strong arm the writers into not joining the Writer's Guild. So first, friend of the working man, didn't want a union getting in the way of his venture. 2) Throughout the run, and then after the show was canceled, Moore tried to stiff the writers. In other words, exactly what he is complaining about in this law suit. The irony is that several writers relied repeatedly on the Writer's Guild (which Moore tried to prevent them from joining) to fight him and get their payments, credits and residuals.

And we were not talking $2.7 million in that case. So, yes, this is yet more evidence of what a nasty, lying, full of **** blowhard the guy is.

3... 2... 1... till some sycophant weighs in about how he is the only person on earth who speaks the truth and how I just don't get it.

 

[93Devil]

Great post, Ragu.

So Moore is a hypocite who cashes in on the shortcomings of our modern society?

Sounds like he needs a 1-3 pm time slot.

 

[YGBFKM]

Michael Moore has more entrepreneurial spirit than 3/4 of the people who like to trash him.

He may be a douchebag from time to time but to say he EVER claimed to be Mr. Altruism and doesn't care about profits is nonsense.

And if someone's suing a film company for withholding profits, nine times out of ten you know they're probably right.

As someone once joked, "Why did God invent the music industry? To make the film industry look good"

U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.!

 

[hondo]

Yep, and Al Gore turns the lights on in his house so he can't care about the environment. At least the wingnuts have something to talk about for the next four days in hopes that Rep. Ripped Biceps fades and Rep. Don't Call Me Boner Boehner tries to dodge the National Enquirer.

Your rant doesn't change the fact that people like Michael Moore and Al Gore are hypocrites.

 

[terrier]

Mike got better seats for the '04 Republican convention than he did from the Dems.
Mike and, say, Ann Coulter probably sit in the same spot on their respective spectrums. The Dem leadership wouldn't touch Mike with a 10-foot pole, while Annie was the darling of GOP leaders - Mitt Romney had her introduce him at the '07 CPAC, an event attended by every Republican presidential hopeful.