Buck Showalter fired

[Football_Bat]

So fresh I couldn't find a link.

Guess that deluxe dinner at Tom Hicks' house didn't go well.

 

[Football_Bat]

Found it ... Startlegram first again.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/15676647.htm

Texas Rangers — 2007 World Series Champions.

 

[spnited]

Shocking that a "great" manager like Buck Showalter has a shelf life of 3-4 years, wherever he goes.
Yet some damn fool owner will hire him again thinking, wrongly of course, that Buck is going to turn around his poor downtrodden franchise.

 

[leo1]

Shocking that a "great" manager like Buck Showalter has a shelf life of 3-4 years, wherever he goes.
Yet some damn fool owner will hire him again thinking, wrongly of course, that Buck is going to turn around his poor downtrodden franchise.

seriously. someone should write a book about the retread phenomenon of professional head coaches and managers. it's one thing if they win everywhere they go but how does a guy like buck showalter keep fooling GMs? do they not check references?

 

[shockey]

FWIW, i've always considered control-freak buck a way overrated manager. his primary gift? wooing sucking up to n.y. types like loopy and michael kay. he wears on players/owners in short shrift, ala billy martin -- only he NEVER wins a damn thing.

welcome back to espn, buck. good luck in your next gig as a third-base coach.

 

[Guy_Incognito]

Shocking that a "great" manager like Buck Showalter has a shelf life of 3-4 years, wherever he goes.
Yet some damn fool owner will hire him again thinking, wrongly of course, that Buck is going to turn around his poor downtrodden franchise.

seriously. someone should write a book about the retread phenomenon of professional head coaches and managers. it's one thing if they win everywhere they go but how does a guy like buck showalter keep fooling GMs? do they not check references?

Yeah, like Torre, McKeon, Belicheck, Shanahan etc.

Showalter will turn your team around, and get them from terrible to pretty good within a few years, then he'll drive everyone nuts & get dumped. If I were a bad team, I'd hire him for step one. Think Marty Schottenheimer.

 

[Webster]

Guy -- I think that he is Mike Fratello or Hubie Brown of managers.

Torre is an interesting guy -- he was dismal with the Mets and the papers killed his hire. Now he is bulletproof. He could pitch Giambi and no one would say anything.

 

[terrier]

The Texas Rangers are Satan.
Methinks guys got tired of the clubhouse evangelism (fine when it's organic from the players themselves, butb when it comes from above...).

 

[standman]

Shocking that a "great" manager like Buck Showalter has a shelf life of 3-4 years, wherever he goes.
Yet some damn fool owner will hire him again thinking, wrongly of course, that Buck is going to turn around his poor downtrodden franchise.

seriously. someone should write a book about the retread phenomenon of professional head coaches and managers. it's one thing if they win everywhere they go but how does a guy like buck showalter keep fooling GMs? do they not check references?

Absolutely. His nickname should be Buck the Builder. Too bad his personality doesn't allow him to see the final product.

 

[D-3 Fan]

standman, you asked and ye shall receive....

Hi, I'm Buck the Builder. Today we're going to build a baseball team. Later, I'll **** everyone one so that I can get fired. C'mon and help me out!!!!

 

[Claws for Concern]

Where do the Rangers go from here? Does Orel Hershiser apply for this job so he can get the hell away from Berman?

 

[Columbo]

Shocking that a "great" manager like Buck Showalter has a shelf life of 3-4 years, wherever he goes.
Yet some damn fool owner will hire him again thinking, wrongly of course, that Buck is going to turn around his poor downtrodden franchise.

seriously. someone should write a book about the retread phenomenon of professional head coaches and managers. it's one thing if they win everywhere they go but how does a guy like buck showalter keep fooling GMs? do they not check references?

Yeah, like Torre, McKeon, Belicheck, Shanahan etc.

Showalter will turn your team around, and get them from terrible to pretty good within a few years, then he'll drive everyone nuts & get dumped. If I were a bad team, I'd hire him for step one. Think Marty Schottenheimer.

Mindless, cliche rip of Marty Schottenheimer.

I mean, puhhhlease.

He got derailed from the Super Bowl by the ****tiest luck in history, and now someone who really isn't paying attention is insulting him by comparing him with never-done-**** Showalter?

 

[dooley_womack1]

With Showalter, it's not so much the retread phenomenon as it is the yo-yo phenomenon. A team that loses with an easygoing mananger blames the failure on the manager being easygoing. So the team reasons that doing the opposite will have an effect opposite of failure. That's how a Showalter and a Mike Keenan keep getting hired and fired, because the yo-yo eventually turns to "tough manager/coach isn't having success, let's do the opposite."

 

[shockey]

did i miss the memo? when did buck win ANYTHING worth bragging about?

 

[dooley_womack1]

Setting the table for Torre and setting the table for Brenly is enough to interest a team or two. Plus with his ESPN gig, it puts the team in the forefront more than the hiring of a Fredi Gonzalez...tho Gonzalez is probably a better hire.

 

[Thanks for comin' out]

did i miss the memo? when did buck win ANYTHING worth bragging about?

Probably when he won 2004 AL Manager of the Year. I know you mean titles, and I'm not arguing against the firing, I'm just saying... After working with him personally during my career, I don't think he's as bad of a manager as people think. Some of his stories about his time in NY are great. If he's brought in to take a ****ty team and rise to an underacheiving team, then that's fine.

The Pirates or Royals better get on the phone quickly.

 

[shockey]

did i miss the memo? when did buck win ANYTHING worth bragging about?

2004 AL Manager of the Year.

wow. those manager awards are soooooo impressive.

i meant on-the-field wins of significance.

 

[da man]

Meanwhile, headline writers throughout DFW are praying that bench coach Don Wakamatsu doesn't get the job.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Based on Showalter's last two stops, the Rangers will win the series either next season or in 2008...

 

[Thanks for comin' out]

did i miss the memo? when did buck win ANYTHING worth bragging about?

2004 AL Manager of the Year.

wow. those manager awards are soooooo impressive.

i meant on-the-field wins of significance.

Good one. Try reading my ENTIRE post before you *****. Thanks.