Brown Sugar

[Jake_Taylor]

So Vulture posted an essay on the Stones song, which I thought was worth discussing. Is this like the Redskins, in that it's something abhorrently racist that's been accepted for so long it's just been accepted until people really started to think about it? Or maybe there are artistic merits to the lyrics? Is it a sexist and racist song or as song about sexism and racism?

Let's Revisit the Rolling Stones' “Brown Sugar” -- Vulture

 

[Dick Whitman]

It's like "Sex Type Thing" by the Stone Temple Pilots or "Atlantic City" by Bruce Springsteen. It's sung by a character.

There. That took two sentences.

 

[Dick Whitman]

If it was about hobbits and warlocks, there would be a 30-page thread here about how amazing it is. #Zep

 

[YankeeFan]

It's like "Sex Type Thing" by the Stone Temple Pilots or "Atlantic City" by Bruce Springsteen. It's sung by a character.

There. That took two sentences.

Like the frat boys song!

 

[Jake_Taylor]

It's like "Sex Type Thing" by the Stone Temple Pilots or "Atlantic City" by Bruce Springsteen. It's sung by a character.

There. That took two sentences.

That always would have been my take before reading the article and finding out Jagger and Richards have done things to tone it down and semi apologize or say they didn't put any thought into it.

Maybe a better question is does the song offend anybody here and if so why?

 

[Dick Whitman]

Isn't it also a double entendre for a kind of heroin? I've heard that.

 

[RecoveringJournalist]

So Vulture posted an essay on the Stones song, which I thought was worth discussing. Is this like the Redskins, in that it's something abhorrently racist that's been accepted for so long it's just been accepted until people really started to think about it? Or maybe there are artistic merits to the lyrics? Is it a sexist and racist song or as song about sexism and racism?

Let's Revisit the Rolling Stones' “Brown Sugar” -- Vulture

Yes, let's ruin everything we used to enjoy by overanalyzing it.

 

[Captain_Kirk]

Recall a quote from way back from Keith when someone asked him why they named the song Brown Sugar.

His response was along the lines of that they couldn't get it away with calling it Black *****.

Mr. Richards, a man far ahead of his time.

 

[Mr. Sunshine]

Ragu just destroyed all his Stones records. #bigots

 

[da man]

I've heard that song probably three million times and I still can't decipher most of the lyrics.

Sounds great, though.

 

[Starbury]

Wait till the author hears the line from Some Girls :
"Black girls just wanna get ****ed all night
I just don't have that much jam"

or The Harlem Shuffle lyrics:
Now take it kinda slow
With a whole lot of soul
Don't move it too fast
Just make it last

You scratch just like a monkey
Yeah you do real cool
You slide it to the limbo
Yeah how low can you go?

 

[LongTimeListener]

The Indiana Family Faith Council wants to outlaw Afternoon Delight.

While the sun is still out? Disgusting.

 

[Starbury]

The Indiana Family Faith Council wants to outlaw Afternoon Delight.

While the sun is still out? Disgusting.

But willing to let "I'm Turning Japanese I Really Think So" remain as a positive message of safe sex.

Also looking into making Dire Straits "Money For Nothing " The Hoosier State song.

 

[amraeder]

Yes, let's ruin everything we used to enjoy by overanalyzing it.

I agree! You're going to love my analysis of how the Play Doh Playset is about teaching us to conform to our role as cogs in an industrialized, capitalist society!

 

[Big Circus]

Harlem Shuffle is a cover, for what it's worth.

 

[RecoveringJournalist]

What's next? Are they going to claim Appetite For Destruction was misogynist?

 

[Big Circus]

Let's also not lose sight of the fact that without Brown Sugar, Prezbo never would have honed his listening ear and made his one contribution to the force before it all went wrong.

 

[Captain_Kirk]

This could be just the tip of the iceberg for the Stones. Much of their entire catalog could come under attack.

"Under My Thumb"? Not gonna fly in this domestic abuse era...

"Faraway Eyes"? Colored radio station sure isn't pc...

"Star Star"? Abusive treatment to the groupie demographic...

I'm sure there's many more. Better stock up on your Stones catalog while you still can,

 

[Starbury]

This could be just the tip of the iceberg for the Stones. Much of their entire catalog could come under attack.

"Under My Thumb"? Not gonna fly in this domestic abuse era...

"Faraway Eyes"? Colored radio station sure isn't pc...

"Star Star"? Abusive treatment to the groupie demographic...

I'm sure there's many more. Better stock up on your Stones catalog while you still can,

Little T & A - "But the ***** keeps bitching" Sexist

 

[Big Circus]

Honestly, the closest I ever got to being offended by a Stones song was "Cherry Oh Baby." Just seemed like reggae minstrelsy.