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Lyman_Bostock said:
Write-brained said:
Lyman_Bostock said:
Smallpotatoes said:
old_tony said:
hondo said:
Some of my political opponents on this board may find this hard to believe but I've always personally liked Bill Clinton. I would love to play a round of golf and have 2-3 beers with the guy. I'm at odds with about 80 percent of his stances, but that never changed the fact that I liked him.

And this video makes me like him even more.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c68_1193347304&p=1http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c68_1193347304&p=1
I saw that video, too, and liked it a lot. Way to go, Bill.

I, too, would gladly have a beer with Bill. I wouldn't let him near the controls of government again, but I'd certainly have a beer with him.

I kind of feel the same way about George W. Bush.

How about Bubba and W. together? Now that would be a party.

People complain that W. was elected because people would want to have a beer with him.

Or a line of coke ...

Did he inhale? :)

I certainly hope so.

I remember SNL had a sketch four or five years ago that had Bush and Clinton meeting in a bar 30-some years ago, comparing notes about their "partying." Hilarious, IIRC.
 
Lyman_Bostock said:
Write-brained said:
Lyman_Bostock said:
Smallpotatoes said:
old_tony said:
hondo said:
Some of my political opponents on this board may find this hard to believe but I've always personally liked Bill Clinton. I would love to play a round of golf and have 2-3 beers with the guy. I'm at odds with about 80 percent of his stances, but that never changed the fact that I liked him.

And this video makes me like him even more.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c68_1193347304&p=1http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c68_1193347304&p=1
I saw that video, too, and liked it a lot. Way to go, Bill.

I, too, would gladly have a beer with Bill. I wouldn't let him near the controls of government again, but I'd certainly have a beer with him.

I kind of feel the same way about George W. Bush.

How about Bubba and W. together? Now that would be a party.

People complain that W. was elected because people would want to have a beer with him.

Or a line of coke ...

Did he inhale? :)
Pretty hard not to
 
I'd let my kids play with Lil Bush. They'd impress him with their money.
 
Bill's got experience with hecklers.
This footage is from the same site and it was on the '92 campaign trail...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=991_1187921440

It looked like at the end he was about to jump into the crowd and beat the heckler up.
 
JayFarrar said:
Bill's got experience with hecklers.
This footage is from the same site and it was on the '92 campaign trail...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=991_1187921440

It looked like at the end he was about to jump into the crowd and beat the heckler up.

Not sure what you are trying to say by the fact he looks like he will jump into the crowd. Looked to me like he just verbally slapped down a heckler, plus pointed at him and used some nice words like "hell." I personally wish Clinton could somehow get back in office, because he would fix the mess we are in.

If Bush was in the same situation that Clinton was in in the clip you presented, I can't fathom what would happen - but I bet it would involve a lot of stammering, Secret Service and some other government agency I have never heard of tasering that guy and then beating the **** out of him and torturing him behind closed doors.
 
Angola! said:
JayFarrar said:
Bill's got experience with hecklers.
This footage is from the same site and it was on the '92 campaign trail...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=991_1187921440

It looked like at the end he was about to jump into the crowd and beat the heckler up.

Not sure what you are trying to say by the fact he looks like he will jump into the crowd. Looked to me like he just verbally slapped down a heckler, plus pointed at him and used some nice words like "hell." I personally wish Clinton could somehow get back in office, because he would fix the mess we are in.

If Bush was in the same situation that Clinton was in in the clip you presented, I can't fathom what would happen - but I bet it would involve a lot of stammering, Secret Service and some other government agency I have never heard of tasering that guy and then beating the **** out of him and torturing him behind closed doors.

Oh, please.
 
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Lyman_Bostock said:
Angola! said:
JayFarrar said:
Bill's got experience with hecklers.
This footage is from the same site and it was on the '92 campaign trail...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=991_1187921440

It looked like at the end he was about to jump into the crowd and beat the heckler up.

Not sure what you are trying to say by the fact he looks like he will jump into the crowd. Looked to me like he just verbally slapped down a heckler, plus pointed at him and used some nice words like "hell." I personally wish Clinton could somehow get back in office, because he would fix the mess we are in.

If Bush was in the same situation that Clinton was in in the clip you presented, I can't fathom what would happen - but I bet it would involve a lot of stammering, Secret Service and some other government agency I have never heard of tasering that guy and then beating the **** out of him and torturing him behind closed doors.

Oh, please.

You'll be OK.
 
Angola! said:
JayFarrar said:
Bill's got experience with hecklers.
This footage is from the same site and it was on the '92 campaign trail...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=991_1187921440

It looked like at the end he was about to jump into the crowd and beat the heckler up.

Not sure what you are trying to say by the fact he looks like he will jump into the crowd. Looked to me like he just verbally slapped down a heckler, plus pointed at him and used some nice words like "hell." I personally wish Clinton could somehow get back in office, because he would fix the mess we are in.

If Bush was in the same situation that Clinton was in in the clip you presented, I can't fathom what would happen - but I bet it would involve a lot of stammering, Secret Service and some other government agency I have never heard of tasering that guy and then beating the **** out of him and torturing him behind closed doors.

You kidding? Bush opponents don't get within 1,000 yards of him. They're contained in "free speech zones" that the motorcade doesn't drive past. I understand the need for security and all, and I don't imagine it would be much better with Hillary or Obama or whatever Democrat in the office, but still. We wonder why the man seems as though he doesn't know or care what the American public thinks? It's because he hasn't been around someone who disagrees with him in eight years.

Well, except Colbert, that is.
 
Angola! said:
Lyman_Bostock said:
Angola! said:
JayFarrar said:
Bill's got experience with hecklers.
This footage is from the same site and it was on the '92 campaign trail...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=991_1187921440

It looked like at the end he was about to jump into the crowd and beat the heckler up.

Not sure what you are trying to say by the fact he looks like he will jump into the crowd. Looked to me like he just verbally slapped down a heckler, plus pointed at him and used some nice words like "hell." I personally wish Clinton could somehow get back in office, because he would fix the mess we are in.

If Bush was in the same situation that Clinton was in in the clip you presented, I can't fathom what would happen - but I bet it would involve a lot of stammering, Secret Service and some other government agency I have never heard of tasering that guy and then beating the **** out of him and torturing him behind closed doors.

Oh, please.

You'll be OK.

Maybe you'll be, too. Next time something like this hits you, lie down until it goes away.
 
deskslave said:
Angola! said:
JayFarrar said:
Bill's got experience with hecklers.
This footage is from the same site and it was on the '92 campaign trail...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=991_1187921440

It looked like at the end he was about to jump into the crowd and beat the heckler up.

Not sure what you are trying to say by the fact he looks like he will jump into the crowd. Looked to me like he just verbally slapped down a heckler, plus pointed at him and used some nice words like "hell." I personally wish Clinton could somehow get back in office, because he would fix the mess we are in.

If Bush was in the same situation that Clinton was in in the clip you presented, I can't fathom what would happen - but I bet it would involve a lot of stammering, Secret Service and some other government agency I have never heard of tasering that guy and then beating the **** out of him and torturing him behind closed doors.

You kidding? Bush opponents don't get within 1,000 yards of him. They're contained in "free speech zones" that the motorcade doesn't drive past. I understand the need for security and all, and I don't imagine it would be much better with Hillary or Obama or whatever Democrat in the office, but still. We wonder why the man seems as though he doesn't know or care what the American public thinks? It's because he hasn't been around someone who disagrees with him in eight years.

Well, except Colbert, that is.

Again: Oh, please.
 
Lyman_Bostock said:
Angola! said:
Lyman_Bostock said:
Angola! said:
JayFarrar said:
Bill's got experience with hecklers.
This footage is from the same site and it was on the '92 campaign trail...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=991_1187921440

It looked like at the end he was about to jump into the crowd and beat the heckler up.

Not sure what you are trying to say by the fact he looks like he will jump into the crowd. Looked to me like he just verbally slapped down a heckler, plus pointed at him and used some nice words like "hell." I personally wish Clinton could somehow get back in office, because he would fix the mess we are in.

If Bush was in the same situation that Clinton was in in the clip you presented, I can't fathom what would happen - but I bet it would involve a lot of stammering, Secret Service and some other government agency I have never heard of tasering that guy and then beating the **** out of him and torturing him behind closed doors.

Oh, please.

You'll be OK.

Maybe you'll be, too. Next time something like this hits you, lie down until it goes away.

You have fun pretending W is a good prez. At least with his dad, I wasn't embarrassed to be an American. Anyway, I rarely delve into political threads and now I will go back to the baseball threads where I am more comfortable.
 
Lyman, watch the video of Bush today with fire victims in SoCal. Stammering all over the place. Had no idea how to make those people feel a little better. Just talked about how "we appreciate your spirit." It was embarrassing.
 
buckweaver said:
Lyman, watch the video of Bush today with fire victims in SoCal. Stammering all over the place. Had no idea how to make those people feel a little better. Just talked about how "we appreciate your spirit." It was embarrassing.

Better to be slick.
 
buckweaver said:
Lyman, watch the video of Bush today with fire victims in SoCal. Stammering all over the place. Had no idea how to make those people feel a little better. Just talked about how "we appreciate your spirit." It was embarrassing.

Yeah, was watching him on Countdown, and there was a part where he goes something like the Federal Government will do anything it can to help you rebuild to some victims. And I'm thinking to myself, since I have friends and relatives affected by Katrina, yeah, buddy, I know some people in N.O. who wouldn't buy that line of bull anymore. Right after I think that, the story continues and shows a family affected by the Cedar fire in San Diego in 2003, and they show Bush making the same promise. Then they cut to the lot where the family's home stood, and it's still empty today.
 
buckweaver said:
Better to have empathy, IMO.

How do you know he didn't have it?

I swear, if Bush came out tomorrow and said the sky was blue, some people would say it was red with orange-and-green alternating stripes.

The thing is, I disagree with Bush on a number of things (spending, immigration amongst them). But I guess if you don't disagree with him on EVERY SINGLE THING, you're some sore of bum licker and apologist.
 
Firstime Caller said:
buckweaver said:
Lyman, watch the video of Bush today with fire victims in SoCal. Stammering all over the place. Had no idea how to make those people feel a little better. Just talked about how "we appreciate your spirit." It was embarrassing.

Yeah, was watching him on Countdown, and there was a part where he goes something like the Federal Government will do anything it can to help you rebuild to some victims. And I'm thinking to myself, since I have friends and relatives affected by Katrina, yeah, buddy, I know some people in N.O. who wouldn't buy that line of bull anymore. Right after I think that, the story continues and shows a family affected by the Cedar fire in San Diego in 2003, and they show Bush making the same promise. Then they cut to the lot where the family's home stood, and it's still empty today.

Well, we all know "Countdown" is an impartial, agenda-free program.
 
Lyman_Bostock said:
buckweaver said:
Better to have empathy, IMO.

How do you know he didn't have it?

I swear, if Bush came out tomorrow and said the sky was blue, some people would say it was red with orange-and-green alternating stripes.

Ok, this is TOO easy -- the sky is red and orange out here at sunset because of the smoke from the fires. Really, it is.

As for the Countdown thing, I wish I had just mentioned that it was on the news and not said what show. Of course, as a journalist, I recognize that Countdown has a liberal slant.

But I'm sorry - any sort of journalist, heck, any rational person would question the promises Bush has made in regards to the fire victims after Katrina. That's been the story ALL over the local and national news.
 
Lyman_Bostock said:
buckweaver said:
Better to have empathy, IMO.

How do you know he didn't have it?

Oh, I think he had it on some level. There's no human being alive that can witness the destruction that the fires have caused and not feel some sympathy for the victims of a natural disaster.

But knowing his background and his life, I also know that he's rarely dealt with the everyday problems that real people face. Born on third base, thought he hit a triple, etc., etc. He can't relate to everyday people, and a lot of that is of his own choosing. He's insulated himself from the real world, and not just when he became president. It's just his personality, specifically his very real lack of intellectual curiosity. He doesn't want to be a part of the real world; he likes his own little world that was mostly handed to him by Daddy and Co.

All silver-spooners, no matter their politics, have to work hard to overcome that factor, and understand the real world and the problems that less fortunate people face. He doesn't want to overcome it -- he's made that clear by his actions, and it's clear by his interactions with everyday people.

It's not Bush's politics that turn me off; hell, I voted for him once in a previous life. It's the way he can't even comprehend what real people go through every day, and the way he doesn't even want to know, let alone learn, about it. It's a lack of intellectual curiosity -- and I despise that more than anything.

His dad isn't like that. Reagan wasn't like that. ****, even Nixon wasn't like that. They had a curiosity about the world and the people in it.

Dubya does not. And that's the one trait that I cannot respect in anyone over the age of, oh, about 7. Politics be damned.
 
Firstime Caller said:
But I'm sorry - any sort of journalist, heck, any rational person would question the promises Bush has made in regards to the fire victims after Katrina. That's been the story ALL over the local and national news.

Oh wait a minute, the federal government will take care of it, just ask Fenian and Pastor. We are incapable of living our lives without the federal government. They will always be in our corner, always do the right thing and there is no way in the world that the federal government will ever let anyone down, ever. In fact, they already have the funds together to clean up this mess -- well they will just as soon as they attach a bunch of pork and spending projects to the next "clean air" bill then come to your house on tax day and force you to pick up the bill.......
 

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