Bob Stoops=Fraud

[hondo]

Can we put this "Bob Stoops=genius" stuff to rest now? He out-coached Bobby Bowden in the 2001 national championship game, which we know by now wasn't that hard a task. Here's Oklahoma in bowls since:

2002 Cotton Bowl: snoozed past Arkansas 10-3 ... what a thriller that was.
2003 Rose Bowl: beat Washington State 34-14 ... big effing deal
2004 Sugar Bowl (BCS championship): upset by LSU 21-14.
2005 Orange Bowl (BCS championship): hammered by USC 55-17.
2006 Holiday Bowl: beats Oregon 17-14 ... ho bleeping hum.
2007 Fiesta Bowl: Stoops the defensive genius gives up 43 to Boise effing State.

I think Florida might be glad he turned down the job when Spurrier left.

 

[Freelance Hack]

Don't forget the 2003/04 Big 12 Championship choke job.

 

[Oz]

Call him a fraud all you want, but most coaches don't get their team into title games three times in five years, let alone three times in a decade. Stoops is a good coach who's lost a few big games. And won a national title.

I wish KU could have a "fraud" like Stoops anytime.

 

[Idaho]

Naitonal champs are the only ones not frauding the world, right?

If you can't win it all, YOU SUCK!

 

[fever_dog]

yeah, i know OU was doing really well before stoops got there. those john blake teams were powerhouses.

 

[hondo]

Naitonal champs are the only ones not frauding the world, right?

If you can't win it all, YOU SUCK!

I'm merely pointing out that while it's true Stoops has a national championship, he's done nothing with his opportunities since. And for some strange reason, he's escaping the kind of criticism that Bowden, Frank Beamer and yes, Mack Brown, used to get for not winning the big one.

 

[Idaho]

Exactly. If you ain't first, you're last.

And once you've been first, you are a fraud if you don't remain there.

 

[Oz]

And for some strange reason, he's escaping the kind of criticism that Bowden, Frank Beamer and yes, Mack Brown, used to get for not winning the big one.

Probably because he has won the big one.

 

[BTExpress]

he's done nothing with his opportunities since.

That's only if you count winning conference titles and appearing in BCS bowls as "nothing." You can't get the chance to "fail" if you don't do better than the other 117 teams who didn't make it.

And for some strange reason, he's escaping the kind of criticism that Bowden, Frank Beamer and yes, Mack Brown, used to get for not winning the big one.

Bowden was criticized somewhat. . . until he won the big one. I sure don't recall much criticism of Bowden from 1993-1999 when he won two national titles and his team won 12 consecutive bowl games and had a dozen consecutive top-5 finishes.

Beamer has never even beaten a Top 10 team, I believe (and I know he hasn't beaten a top-5 team. The criticism of Beamer goes far beyond "winning the big one."

Mack Brown was criticized . . . until he won the big one.

As has been pointed out, Stoops has won the big one.

 

[doubledown68]

Can we put this "Bob Stoops=genius" stuff to rest now? He out-coached Bobby Bowden in the 2001 national championship game, which we know by now wasn't that hard a task. Here's Oklahoma in bowls since:

2002 Cotton Bowl: snoozed past Arkansas 10-3 ... what a thriller that was.
2003 Rose Bowl: beat Washington State 34-14 ... big effing deal
2004 Sugar Bowl (BCS championship): upset by LSU 21-14.
2005 Orange Bowl (BCS championship): hammered by USC 55-17.
2006 Holiday Bowl: beats Oregon 17-14 ... ho bleeping hum.
2007 Fiesta Bowl: Stoops the defensive genius gives up 43 to Boise effing State.

I think Florida might be glad he turned down the job when Spurrier left.

You're a dolt. Let's see, what did Stoops have to contend with this year... hmm. His QB and another player did something idiotic and were dismissed. His Heisman candidate RB broke his collarbone. Yet all the guy did was run the Big 12 table.

Yup. Sounds like a fraud to me. Moron.

I'd wager there isn't a program in the country not named Ohio State and USC that wouldn't **** a pile of cash in a second to get Stoops.

 

[Ignatius_J._Reilly]

Can we put this "Bob Stoops=genius" stuff to rest now? He out-coached Bobby Bowden in the 2001 national championship game, which we know by now wasn't that hard a task. Here's Oklahoma in bowls since:

2002 Cotton Bowl: snoozed past Arkansas 10-3 ... what a thriller that was.
2003 Rose Bowl: beat Washington State 34-14 ... big effing deal
2004 Sugar Bowl (BCS championship): upset by LSU 21-14.
2005 Orange Bowl (BCS championship): hammered by USC 55-17.
2006 Holiday Bowl: beats Oregon 17-14 ... ho bleeping hum.
2007 Fiesta Bowl: Stoops the defensive genius gives up 43 to Boise effing State.

I think Florida might be glad he turned down the job when Spurrier left.

I have no love for OU, but you are clinically insane.

Previous posts have noted his achievements go far beyond "fraud" levels. Don't forget Stoops also tossed his starting QB and best o-lineman before the season. To suggest he is a fraud is advertising your ignorance.

 

[ondeadline]

Who wears a visor during a game played inside, anyway?

 

[BYH]

Hondo's New Year's Resolution: To be even more ignorant, clueless and moronic than before.

Two days in and mission accomplished! Congratulations! At least you accomplished something.

 

[dooley_womack1]

And when BYH blasts you for calling someone a fraud, you've really spit the bit.

 

[BYH]

The guy's won a national championship. No fraud does that.

Hondo, giant fraud, is such a screwup he can't even ID a fraud correctly.

 

[Oz]

Who wears a visor during a game played inside, anyway?

I'm sure Spurrier probably would do it.

 

[ondeadline]

Spurrier has to have some headgear to throw on the ground when he's upset.

 

[Shaggy]

Not only did he win a national championship, but he did it by running the table with a team that had no business winning any more than 9-10 games.

Dismissed.

 

[kingcreole]

Naitonal champs are the only ones not frauding the world, right?

If you can't win it all, YOU SUCK!

I'm merely pointing out that while it's true Stoops has a national championship, he's done nothing with his opportunities since.

Damn Stoops for losing two national championship games!

Roy Williams, Jim Boeheim, John Thompson = frauds.

Mike Holmgren, Mike Ditka = frauds (we won't even talk about Marv Levy).

Nick Saban, Lou Holtz, Phillip Fullmer, Jimmy Johnson = frauds (Bill Snyder was worse than a fraud at Kansas State. What did he ever win??)

 

[MU_was_not_so_hard]

Wow -- this thread premise is dumb. Might as well fire the guy because he lost to pretty decent team that, um, HADN'T LOST A ****ING GAME ALL YEAR.