BCS Standings

[Versatile]

Alabama has nothing to worry about except its own games.

 

[joe]

If Missouri can run the table they're absolutely no worse than #2 at the end, and in the National Championship.

There's a line I don't recall ever reading during football season.

Maybe in some windowpane on the tongue trip, but not in the rational world. I think the Tigers can get to 12-0 with a little luck and Pinky not completely ****ing things up, but I don't see them defeating Alabama. Kinda like the year they were No. 1, Alabama will put an Oklahoma-like ass kicking on Mizzou in a potential SEC title game.

And I say that as a Mizzou fan, where waiting for the other shoe to drop is a way of life.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Flip a coin? What kind of coin is that? If this is the same Alabama team I saw highlights of shutting out Mississippi and Arkansas, the Tide will win by 30.

Does anyone really think Missouri is going to sweep South Carolina, Ole Miss and Texas A&M? It's Gary Pinkel, for crying out loud!

If they beat Florida and Georgia, they can certainly beat South Carolina. I tend to think they'll lose two of those games, but it's not like you look at the schedule and say it's impossible to win out in the regular season. If they were staring down road games at LSU and Alabama, I would definitely be saying otherwise.

 

[Michael_ Gee]

Based on what I've seen, I don't think any of those games are unwinnable for Missouri, especially with Shaw and Manziel having just been injured last week.

 

[Versatile]

Based on what I've seen, I don't think any of those games are unwinnable for Missouri, especially with Shaw and Manziel having just been injured last week.

Johnny Manziel missed one series. The Missouri game is in a month and a half.

 

[Gehrig]

Inaugural rankings go as this:

1. Alabama
2. Florida State
3. Oregon
4. Ohio State
5. Missouri


Thoughts?

Florida State in front of Oregon? Seriously?

 

[Versatile]

Inaugural rankings go as this:

1. Alabama
2. Florida State
3. Oregon
4. Ohio State
5. Missouri


Thoughts?

Florida State in front of Oregon? Seriously?

Not only seriously, but obviously, at this point. Oregon has one good win, at Washington, which has lost three in a row. Florida State beat 6-1 Clemson, 5-2 Maryland and 4-2 Pittsburgh.

If Oregon beats UCLA and Stanford in consecutive games, it'll move up.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Inaugural rankings go as this:

1. Alabama
2. Florida State
3. Oregon
4. Ohio State
5. Missouri


Thoughts?

Florida State in front of Oregon? Seriously?

That road win over Clemson carried a lot of weight. If the Ducks beat UCLA this weekend, I could see that flipping...

 

[Michael_ Gee]

BCS rankings are like elections. The results depend on which precincts/games have reported and which haven't yet.

 

[Versatile]

BCS rankings are like elections. The results depend on which precincts/games have reported and which haven't yet.

Nate Silver's predictions aren't nearly as accurate.

 

[BTExpress]

That streak, though, is largely aided by the fact that the SEC starts the season with a 50% chance of winning the BCS. No other conference can say that. The SEC knows that even a 1-loss (or 2-loss) champion still has an above-average chance of playing for the BCS title.

Yeah, I know that's a popular line of reasoning, but it didn't happen in a vacuum or by the snap of someone's fingers. It was earned over time. And it wasn't always that way. And it doesn't have to stay that way.

Auburn is the only undefeated team from one of the power conferences to get left out of a BCS title game. The team it was closest to for that No. 2 spot (Oklahoma) got its doors blown off by USC. Since that time 7 SEC teams have played for the title, and all 7 have won.

At any point during those years another team could have slapped the SEC team down and made a statement, one that would have taken away the benefit of the doubt given SEC teams. 7 chances. 7 failures.

The SEC has a mythical "50% chance of winning the BCS" because they completed a monumental "1-in-128 chance" of going 7-for-7 with the title on the line. That was earned. Over time. And it can go away, too . . . if someone would just beat them.

 

[Michael_ Gee]

Teams create dynastic success, not conferences. The SEC's run is directly attributable to Nick Saban and Urban Meyer. Now that Meyer's in another conference, I predict the SEC will become at best first among equals, not dominant, in the future.

 

[Versatile]

Michael_Gee, stick to baseball. The success is mostly due to population shifts, a large base of young black men who tend to be best at football and the popularity of the sport in the South.

 

[murphyc]

Inaugural rankings go as this:

1. Alabama
2. Florida State
3. Oregon
4. Ohio State
5. Missouri


Thoughts?

Florida State in front of Oregon? Seriously?

That road win over Clemson carried a lot of weight. If the Ducks beat UCLA this weekend, I could see that flipping...

Maybe, maybe not. UCLA hadn't really been tested until last week and the offense did nothing in the loss to Stanford. In other words, it's not as big of a win as it would have been a week ago.
If Oregon beats UCLA and then takes Stanford on the road, I'd say it's almost a given they slot above FSU. The Oregon-Stanford game, like last year, is shaping up as the Pac-12 game of the year.

 

[Liut]

If Missouri can run the table they're absolutely no worse than #2 at the end, and in the National Championship.

There's a line I don't recall ever reading during football season.

LMAO! Oh, me neither.

 

[Michael_ Gee]

Versatile, all the factors you cited where in play prior to the start of the SEC teams' run. Take away Saban and Meyer, and that's six of those seven titles gone. Where's Florida now? Where was Alabama in the Mike Shula era? The SEC has always been one of the strongest conferences around since I was a kid. But it was NEVER this dominant nationally until those two coaches showed up. not even with Bear Bryant.

 

[BTExpress]

Versatile, all the factors you cited where in play prior to the start of the SEC teams' run. Take away Saban and Meyer, and that's six of those seven titles gone. Where's Florida now? Where was Alabama in the Mike Shula era? The SEC has always been one of the strongest conferences around since I was a kid. But it was NEVER this dominant nationally until those two coaches showed up. not even with Bear Bryant.

I think you're on the right track, but it goes a little beyond Saban and Meyer, IMO.

Most of the teams have seen a coaching upgrade since the 90s. The teams that had the likes of Jim Donnan, Brad Scott, Woody Widenhofer, Gerry DiNardo and Terry Bowden all have stronger coaches now.

 

[Versatile]

Versatile, all the factors you cited where in play prior to the start of the SEC teams' run. Take away Saban and Meyer, and that's six of those seven titles gone. Where's Florida now? Where was Alabama in the Mike Shula era? The SEC has always been one of the strongest conferences around since I was a kid. But it was NEVER this dominant nationally until those two coaches showed up. not even with Bear Bryant.

Six of the seven? We're giving Nick Saban credit for Les Miles?

And Auburn deserved at least a shot at the 2004 title, while LSU did win the 2003 title.

Plus the league has dominated nonconference play throughout the span, including non-powers. Remember when 8-4 Mississippi beat 11-1 Texas Tech in the Cotton Bowl? There are many similar examples.

Also, the shifts I'm talking about were gradual but came to fruition all at once. Even before these players reached college, the South is dominating recruiting rankings for a reason. And it's dominating the NFL draft for a reason.

 

[Michael_ Gee]

I apologize for unfairly slighting Les by omission. But then, he's pretty used to slights by now.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I think the SEC has taken advantage of some bad/mediocre coaching hires by some of the power schools.

Florida State didn't make a bad hire, but they did fall a bit during Bowden's final seasons and the first couple under the new regime.

Nebraska hasn't gotten back to the level it was before Osborne retired.

Michigan hasn't been a top team in awhile.

Even in the SEC, Tennessee hasn't been a title contender in about a decade.

NCAA sanctions and a bad coaching hire knocked USC off it's pedestal.

The result has been much less parity.