At what point should you as a reporter point out the wrong call was made?

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Spartan Squad

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Here's the scenario:

During a high school tennis match, a kid hits a shot that goes into the corner, but stays in by a few inches. The opponent who was running down the ball hesitates a few seconds then eventually says it was out. The point would have been the 40th (on a 15, 30, 40, 45 scale) and he did score the next point which would have given him a 5-4 match lead. The ball was more than clearly in and I even got a player on the player's team that benefited from the missed call to admit the ball was called wrong.

Here's the question:

Do you speak up during the match that the wrong call was made? I don't know how it's done elsewhere, but here in CA there are no line judges, it's up to the players to police themselves. What makes it even worse, the kid who missed the call went on to win the game and pulled off the set to clinch match not only for him but for the team (it finished as a 4-3 win for that team instead of a 4-3 for the home team). Is there such a time when you should speak up? Is it ever appropriate? I, obviously, didn't speak up and the coach was irate afterword because he knew the call was blown. What would you do?
 
You can't say anything during the game. The reporter, no matter what, cannot influence the outcome of the game. Period.

Want to point it out in your story? By all means.
 
The coach should speak to the official if he wants to argue a call. It's certainly not a reporter's place to do that.

If for some reason its incumbent on spectators to do this, which seems insane anyway, I'd leave it to parents and others. Not the reporter.
 
Spartan Squad said:
Here's the scenario:

During a high school tennis match, a kid hits a shot that goes into the corner, but stays in by a few inches. The opponent who was running down the ball hesitates a few seconds then eventually says it was out. The point would have been the 40th (on a 15, 30, 40, 45 scale) and he did score the next point which would have given him a 5-4 match lead. The ball was more than clearly in and I even got a player on the player's team that benefited from the missed call to admit the ball was called wrong.

Here's the question:

Do you speak up during the match that the wrong call was made? I don't know how it's done elsewhere, but here in CA there are no line judges, it's up to the players to police themselves. What makes it even worse, the kid who missed the call went on to win the game and pulled off the set to clinch match not only for him but for the team (it finished as a 4-3 win for that team instead of a 4-3 for the home team). Is there such a time when you should speak up? Is it ever appropriate? I, obviously, didn't speak up and the coach was irate afterword because he knew the call was blown. What would you do?

I don't think it's your place to speak up during competition. That's the coach's job.

I do, however, believe you should report particularly egregious calls in a game story, but only if it factored into the result. The problem with that is the officials almost never are available for comment, which really isn't fair.
 
JimmyHoward33 said:
The coach should speak to the official if he wants to argue a call. It's certainly not a reporter's place to do that.

If for some reason its incumbent on spectators to do this, which seems insane anyway, I'd leave it to parents and others. Not the reporter.

There are no officials there. With seven matches going on at the same time, there's just no way to expect those things to get enough officials to man the game. Even one couldn't see everything. The coach said it's up to a player to protest a call and ask for someone to act as a line judge, be it a coach, parent, teammate or whom ever. In this case the player was too timid to argue.
 
Spartan Squad said:
JimmyHoward33 said:
The coach should speak to the official if he wants to argue a call. It's certainly not a reporter's place to do that.

If for some reason its incumbent on spectators to do this, which seems insane anyway, I'd leave it to parents and others. Not the reporter.

There are no officials there. With seven matches going on at the same time, there's just no way to expect those things to get enough officials to man the game. Even one couldn't see everything. The coach said it's up to a player to protest a call and ask for someone to act as a line judge, be it a coach, parent, teammate or whom ever. In this case the player was too timid to argue.
Geez, WHY is this considered a varsity sport? What a joke. Sames goes with making JV volleyball girls call the backline. Just BS.
 
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spikechiquet said:
Spartan Squad said:
JimmyHoward33 said:
The coach should speak to the official if he wants to argue a call. It's certainly not a reporter's place to do that.

If for some reason its incumbent on spectators to do this, which seems insane anyway, I'd leave it to parents and others. Not the reporter.

There are no officials there. With seven matches going on at the same time, there's just no way to expect those things to get enough officials to man the game. Even one couldn't see everything. The coach said it's up to a player to protest a call and ask for someone to act as a line judge, be it a coach, parent, teammate or whom ever. In this case the player was too timid to argue.
Geez, WHY is this considered a varsity sport? What a joke. Sames goes with making JV volleyball girls call the backline. Just BS.

I've never covered tennis with officials on each court, and I've covered it in three different states. I actually can't think of a regular season match where I saw one. Even state tournaments I've worked haven't had them across the board.
 
If you’re there as a reporter, then just report and steer clear of becoming an official. The minute you start down that road, you become part of the story.

I agree with DeskMonkey1 and would put the details you described in the story. Use that platform to point out the lack of line judges.
 
I believe call-your-own has been the standard in youth tennis for quite some time. I remember stories about the junior John McEnroe being well-known for favoring his opponent, to his own detriment, if the call was at all close. I do not know the setup of tennis now, but this wouldn't be unusual for the history of the game.

However, I call bull**** on your (or anyone's) belief that you can state as fact that the ball was in and the call was wrong. Nobody can say that without video evidence.
 
LongTimeListener said:
I believe call-your-own has been the standard in youth tennis for quite some time. I remember stories about the junior John McEnroe being well-known for favoring his opponent, to his own detriment, if the call was at all close. I do not know the setup of tennis now, but this wouldn't be unusual for the history of the game.

However, I call bull**** on your (or anyone's) belief that you can state as fact that the ball was in and the call was wrong. Nobody can say that without video evidence.

I disagree with your second statement. If the call was clearly wrong and you're 100 percent sure, you are obligated to report your observations, especially if the call impacted the result. Otherwise, why are you even there?
 
100 percent sure is impossible.

Go see how many baseball coaches, or reporters, or fans are "100 percent sure" that the runner beat the throw to the bag at a high school game. Some of them would even be from the other side.

It is absurd to think you can sit there and be the undisputed word on something like that.
 
LongTimeListener said:
100 percent sure is impossible.

Go see how many baseball coaches, or reporters, or fans are "100 percent sure" that the runner beat the throw to the bag at a high school game. Some of them would even be from the other side.

It is absurd to think you can sit there and be the undisputed word on something like that.

100 percent sure is not impossible. Don't be ridiculous.

In baseball, I've seen players called out at home when they touched the base before the ball even got to the plate. Foot on plate, ball not there.

In football, I've observed a player step out of bounds, then go on to score a touchdown because the referee missed it.

In hockey, I've seen a high stick hit a player's face that wasn't called.

In basketball, I've seen a basket called as good when it clearly came up short and moved the net, but the referee had the worst possible angle at it.

This reporter saw a ball in a tennis match land clearly in bounds. If you're not reporting that, you are not doing your job.
 
Mmmm hmmm. Yeah. I'm sure everyone will just take the reporter's word for it. He's right.

This is really dumb to even be discussing.
 
LongTimeListener said:
Mmmm hmmm. Yeah. I'm sure everyone will just take the reporter's word for it. He's right.

This is really dumb to even be discussing.

Agreed. The idiocy of not reporting your own observations is baffling.
 
Only a bad reporter thrusts himself into a game story.

You are there as an impartial observer. You cannot become a referee.

Especially in your own game story.
 
Here's another situation with a similar dilemma: I was standing on the sidelines while covering a high school football game between two local small-school powers with unbeaten records when, late in the fourth quarter, the visiting team scored the go-ahead touchdown. After quickly scribbling down notes about the play, I glanced up to the scoreboard to note the time of the score when I saw that the clock had continued to run. No one -- not the game officials, not the coaching staff, not even the fans in the stands -- seemed to notice.

I could have alerted the side judge, who was standing nearby me, but didn't. Instead, I watched as valuable time ticked away, which, as memory serves, was about 20 seconds before the clock operator noticed too. The clock was never wound back, just simply stopped. The PAT was quickly converted, and there was then little more than a minute in the game as the home team faced the difficult task of trying to score against the area's best defense.

I remember thinking that my silence had cost one team not only the game and a perfect record, but also impacted its eventual playoff seeding. Turns out that I might have done just that, but it wasn't the home team.

Turns out, the home team rebounded to score a quick touchdown to regain the lead, and the visiting team then had to scramble to mount a last-minute drive of its own. It just about did that, reaching the red zone before time expired.

It was the ultimate damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't. Had I spoken up, I might have impacted the outcome of the game. Had I kept quite, I might have impacted the outcome of the game. In the end, I could only protect my journalistic integrity, though one way or the other I would surely be able to debate whether I had made the correct decision no matter what I had done.
 
What is so difficult to understand about spnited's immortal words: "We are not the story. We are the story tellers."
 
SnarkShark said:
LongTimeListener said:
100 percent sure is impossible.

Go see how many baseball coaches, or reporters, or fans are "100 percent sure" that the runner beat the throw to the bag at a high school game. Some of them would even be from the other side.

It is absurd to think you can sit there and be the undisputed word on something like that.

100 percent sure is not impossible. Don't be ridiculous.

In baseball, I've seen players called out at home when they touched the base before the ball even got to the plate. Foot on plate, ball not there.

In football, I've observed a player step out of bounds, then go on to score a touchdown because the referee missed it.

In hockey, I've seen a high stick hit a player's face that wasn't called.

In basketball, I've seen a basket called as good when it clearly came up short and moved the net, but the referee had the worst possible angle at it.

This reporter saw a ball in a tennis match land clearly in bounds. If you're not reporting that, you are not doing your job.

I've covered two basketball games where the scoreboard showed the wrong score at the end. One a neutral site game where the designated home team scored and they put up two points for the away team, the other where a player hit a 3-pointer, the ref signaled 3 and the scoreboard op added 2. Neither ended up being a close game, but I wouldn't have said anything to the ref if it was. Coach doesn't notice, that's their problem.
I've seen a situation similar to sportsed's. Clock operator for some reason decides to run the clock on a PAT early in the 4th. no one notices. Other team gets to the 5 before the clock runs out, loses by 4.
Maybe Spartan can clarify how good a look he got at the play, but often when I cover high school tennis I have to take pictures too, so I'm standing on the court and often just about where a line judge would be standing.
 
I'm not saying you should write that a close play at first base or a block/charge foul in basketball were incorrect.

I specifically said "egregious" for a reason. All of my examples fit into that category. If one of those plays impacted the result, and you don't report what you saw, you're not telling the true story of the game.
 

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