22 years ago today...

[Colton]

Forgive the fanboi looser in me: The Drive.

28 years ago last Sunday: Red Right 88

I was there for both (not to mention The Shot)... ugh.

Nothing to see here, all is well... move along.

* This pathetic whine is officially concluded *

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

IJAG just bought an RPG and doesn't know why.

 

[slappy4428]

Yes she does.

 

[Killick]

Motherf...
Old wounds never really heal.
And next week is the 21st anniversary of "The Fumble." ****ing Webster Slaughter.

 

[Goldeaston]

Never quite understood some of the hoopla of this stuff. ...

The Drive only got the game into overtime, and the Browns won the coin toss.

The Fumble came on a play that would have only tied the game.

Red Right 88 came in the first round of the playoffs. The Browns would have had to travel to San Diego to face Fouts and Co. the next week. Yes, the Raiders beat SD, but that doesn't guarantee anything.

The Shot came in the first round of the playoffs. Chicago went on to lose to the Pistons and the Cavs would have, too.

When you never win, your close losses are probably more painful. But none of these is worth the hype.

If Cleveland fans want to **** and moan, do it about the 97 Series, when Mesa blew a ninth-inning lead in Game 7 (but even that is over-hyped, since the Indians led all seven games of the Series, and found ways to lose four of them).

 

[Killick]

Aaaaarghh!!!!!! Jose Mesa!!!!!!
You're killing me, Goldy!!!

 

[schiezainc]

Never quite understood some of the hoopla of this stuff. ...

The Drive only got the game into overtime, and the Browns won the coin toss.

The Fumble came on a play that would have only tied the game.

Red Right 88 came in the first round of the playoffs. The Browns would have had to travel to San Diego to face Fouts and Co. the next week. Yes, the Raiders beat SD, but that doesn't guarantee anything.

The Shot came in the first round of the playoffs. Chicago went on to lose to the Pistons and the Cavs would have, too.

When you never win, your close losses are probably more painful. But none of these is worth the hype.

If Cleveland fans want to **** and moan, do it about the 97 Series, when Mesa blew a ninth-inning lead in Game 7 (but even that is over-hyped, since the Indians led all seven games of the Series, and found ways to lose four of them).

Not to thread-jack, but next Monday is the seventh anniversary of the Tuck Rule game and this falls into the category of "get the f*** over it" as well. But, of course, when anything happens that favors the Patriots, this board goes into witch-hunting mode.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

Never quite understood some of the hoopla of this stuff. ...

I guess you don't live in Cleveland, YOU LIVE IN CINCINNATI!

 

[Killick]

Easy, there, Coach Sam.

 

[imjustagirl]

A. WTF does Slaughter have to do with the Fumble?

B. ****. Colton, I was thinking about this last night, but kind of shut my mind off from it. Thanks.


Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

C. Goldeaston, anyone on here can tell you my long-lasting hatred of Jose ****ing Mesa (his official name). I was in my dorm room, watching it on TV, actually on the phone with my mom (another long-time Indians fan). I literally screamed. I hate that fat ****.

 

[Killick]

A. WTF does Slaughter have to do with the Fumble?

He was supposed to block Castille. Instead, he took two or three steps from the line of scrimmage and just watched the play develop. Byner caught so much **** over the fumble for years, but it was Slaughter's fault. Never even put a mit on Castille.

 

[imjustagirl]

Bull****. Doesn't matter who hits Byner...if he's not carrying that thing away from his body like a ******* loaf of bread, Terry Tate could have hit him and not knocked it loose.

Protect. The. *******. Ball.

 

[Killick]

He gave Castille what amounted to a free shot at Byner. Yeah, Byner dropped it. But when the player who causes the fumble is turned loose by that kind of ****, a teammate who just didn't even attempt to do his job, I'm holding The Matador responsible. BTW, Marty agrees with me. ESPN Classic revisited it a few years ago, and Marty put the blame at Webster's feet, FWIW.

 

[forever_town]

Not to thread-jack, but next Monday is the seventh anniversary of the Tuck Rule game and this falls into the category of "get the f*** over it" as well. But, of course, when anything happens that favors the Patriots, this board goes into witch-hunting mode.

The difference between Cleveland sports fans bitching over The Drive and The Fumble and Chokeland fans bitching over The Tuck Rule (or the Immaculate Reception, FWIW) is that the Raiders have won the Super Bowl. They won it when they played in Oakland. They won it when they played in Los Angeles.

Actually, scratch that. Cleveland has won four NFL titles (1950, 1954, 1955 and 1964) and dominated the All America Football Conference before it joined the NFL, winning all four of its titles. So they can STFU about The Drive and The Fumble.

 

[imjustagirl]

While we're at it, **** Marty. That Drive loss hangs around HIS neck. ****ing prevent defense. God I hate that guy. He ranks slightly below Elway and Modell on my eternal hate list...but not by much.

And if you read any accounts of it, Castille dropped off. If he was four yards off and Byner went that way, I'm not sure you can put all blame on Slaughter. Hell, I was never a Slaughter girl but I'm not putting that one on him. Besides...he weighed 12 pounds soaking wet. How much damage could he have done? It's not like it was Langhorne out there.

 

[imjustagirl]

Not to thread-jack, but next Monday is the seventh anniversary of the Tuck Rule game and this falls into the category of "get the f*** over it" as well. But, of course, when anything happens that favors the Patriots, this board goes into witch-hunting mode.

The difference between Cleveland sports fans bitching over The Drive and The Fumble and Chokeland fans bitching over The Tuck Rule (or the Immaculate Reception, FWIW) is that the Raiders have won the Super Bowl. They won it when they played in Oakland. They won it when they played in Los Angeles.

Actually, scratch that. Cleveland has won four NFL titles (1950, 1954, 1955 and 1964) and dominated the All America Football Conference before it joined the NFL, winning all four of its titles. So they can STFU about The Drive and The Fumble.

Oops. Forgot to ask permission.

I'll go sing Stevie Nicks in your honor.

 

[Killick]

IJAG, I guess it's just a principle thing with me. Had Webster even attempted to do his job, I'd turn my attention back to Byner.

 

[imjustagirl]

Eh, Slaughter slacked on plays where the ball didn't go to him all the time. It was a trade I was willing to make.

Byner carried the ball like a tool. He lost the ball. His fault.

 

[Simon_Cowbell]

Never quite understood some of the hoopla of this stuff. ...

The Drive only got the game into overtime, and the Browns won the coin toss.

The Fumble came on a play that would have only tied the game.

Red Right 88 came in the first round of the playoffs. The Browns would have had to travel to San Diego to face Fouts and Co. the next week. Yes, the Raiders beat SD, but that doesn't guarantee anything.

The Shot came in the first round of the playoffs. Chicago went on to lose to the Pistons and the Cavs would have, too.

When you never win, your close losses are probably more painful. But none of these is worth the hype.

If Cleveland fans want to **** and moan, do it about the 97 Series, when Mesa blew a ninth-inning lead in Game 7 (but even that is over-hyped, since the Indians led all seven games of the Series, and found ways to lose four of them).

Not to thread-jack, but next Monday is the seventh anniversary of the Tuck Rule game and this falls into the category of "get the f*** over it" as well. But, of course, when anything happens that favors the Patriots, this board goes into witch-hunting mode.

No. The Raiders had the game won on that single mis-officiated play.

Period.

 

[BYH]

Never quite understood some of the hoopla of this stuff. ...

The Drive only got the game into overtime, and the Browns won the coin toss.

The Fumble came on a play that would have only tied the game.

Red Right 88 came in the first round of the playoffs. The Browns would have had to travel to San Diego to face Fouts and Co. the next week. Yes, the Raiders beat SD, but that doesn't guarantee anything.

The Shot came in the first round of the playoffs. Chicago went on to lose to the Pistons and the Cavs would have, too.

When you never win, your close losses are probably more painful. But none of these is worth the hype.

If Cleveland fans want to **** and moan, do it about the 97 Series, when Mesa blew a ninth-inning lead in Game 7 (but even that is over-hyped, since the Indians led all seven games of the Series, and found ways to lose four of them).

Not to thread-jack, but next Monday is the seventh anniversary of the Tuck Rule game and this falls into the category of "get the f*** over it" as well. But, of course, when anything happens that favors the Patriots, this board goes into witch-hunting mode.

No. The Raiders had the game won on that single mis-officiated play.

Period.

The biggest fix perpetuated by a guy, Paul Tagliabue, who perpetuated (or at least tried really hard, I'm looking at you, Steelers at Colts Jan. '06) a whole ****load of fixes.

As some might say: Inarguable among the sane.