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10 quick thoughts on the final, which I enjoyed at my local Irish pub, where I meant to visit many more times than I actuallly did in this tournament.

1. No one should be surprised that the final kind of sucked as a football spectacle. Most of them do, as they normally include 22 people who are either ****ting themselves scared or surrounded by people who are. This is now the third 1-0 in extra time final in the last five World Cups. A fourth of recent vintage, 1990, featured West Germany beating Argentina 1-0 on a 85th-minute penalty kick.
2. I think the whole "better if you score late" is an obvious trope, but if Spain had any sort of intent, it worked beautifully. They got their goal at just the right time where they didn't have to sit back and defend forever (England) and had Argentina out of rhythm, out of gas and down a man.
3. In fact, this game bore a rather striking resemblance to the 2010 final in South Africa, a shockingly violent game with a dozen bookings (including Nigel de Jong kicking a man in the sternum), the Dutch getting a man sent off late and Spain scoring an extra-time winner.
4. Welcome to the Emi Martinez Show. As a Villa fan, I thought he might be able to steal one for them. There has been a lot of talk during the tournament that he would be making a move to Juventus. Seeing as he turns 34 in September, it wouldn't hurt my feelings if the price was right, but the guy did the job. Maybe it was positioning, but all those shots right into the gut gave me some Martin Brodeur vibes.
5. I still find this Spain team hard to figure. At least two of their games happened on Monday afternoons that I missed while playing golf (in fact, by my estimation, they played all but one of their games, Uruguay, in broad daylight). A third (Saudi Arabia) I was in the car most of the time and it was a blowout before I got to a TV. Spain-Austria was the time I tried to watch on Telemundo (I don't speak any Spanish). That said, to play eight games in a World Cup and allow one goal? I guess that was my loss.
6. I said many uncharitable things about Argentina after the semifinal, and most of the on-field ones turned out to be true, IMHO. That said, it's almost shocking how calm Messi is. Maybe it's the Spanish upbringing, maybe it's the resume so he doesn't have to be a ****-stirrer.
7. The halftime show was a pretty stupid idea but they did a nice job putting some unhateable stuff in there. Like who hates the Electric Mayhem? Seriously? Though did Dr. Teeth sit out in protest?
8. For all the doomsaying about the weather, I believe it was less than 80 in New York today -- normal summer day. I believe there were exactly two games with lightning delays, only one of which was delayed in progress (and that was at halftime). There were a few scorchers for sure but not dramatically more than most of the recent tournaments.
9. As for the play? Maybe a letter grade of B? The Cape Verde-Argentina game happened while I was driving home for the Fourth and I was surprisingly against the idea of Cape Verde winning at the time on account of I wanted Messi to go out in a duel, not be sniped off the proverbial board. (Also, I think Cape Verde was better than the credit they got up to that point.) The funny thing is that you could say this was one of the chalkiest World Cups of recent memory -- other than perhaps 2014 (Germany, Argentina, Brazil, Netherlands), this was the first final four that didn't include a nation that was geographically or culturally small in football since 1990. And though there were threats, it was relatively low on actual upsets (Germany-Paraguay was probably the biggest one, followed by Brazil-Norway and Switzerland-Colombia). I think variations on the phrase "the stars came out for this one" were apt. All the best players (Messi, Haaland, Mbappe, etc.) showed up.
10. As for the culture? I think we all know that big son of a ***** was going to insert himself into whatever he could, and he did, though other than immigration stuff, Balogun and the final, he didn't really seem to have the attention span for it. I didn't watch the trophy ceremony live (to be fair, the pub, which is not normally open on Sundays, was closing up). The thing is these sorts of events contain multitudes, and in the day to day you can find something relatively unobjectionable. Gonna be counting on that in 2028, because even if he doesn't make it that far, some remnant of this will.
 
Argentina's behavior was not unexpected. Sir Alf Ramsay called it as he saw it. They are the reason ref have cards.
 
Argentina played a dirty, disgusting brand of football - the main contributor to such a lousy game yesterday.

And it got off to a bad start with TWO Buffers caterwauling.
 
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Cape Verde better than Argentina confirmed.

Pretty cool that I got to watch the eventual world champs in my hometown, even if they did fail to score a single goal. But that 0-0 tie will be the culmination of my in-person soccer experience.
 
I feel like it’s not just Argentina. Almost every game I watched, players want to fight each other as soon as it’s over. Grown ass men.
 
Adam Crafton went scorched earth on Argentina in the Athletic.


I get that British soccer English has invaded (conquered?) U.S. media, but this just sounds awful. Last sentence sounds like a caricature foreign accent.

Spain are, in many ways, the counter-culture to Argentina. They are a system team; organised, logical and surgical in its play. If Spain keep cool, then Argentina run hot.
 
I get that British soccer English has invaded (conquered?) U.S. media, but this just sounds awful. Last sentence sounds like a caricature foreign accent.
The author is English. He's from Manchester, went to Cambridge and worked for the Daily Mail for many years before joining The Athletic.
 
The author is English. He's from Manchester, went to Cambridge and worked for the Daily Mail for many years before joining The Athletic.
Not sure why that matters, since he's writing for an American publication. "British sports English" has become the norm during the World Cup, regardless of the nationality of the author or commentator. Hell, ESPN sometimes screws up and uses singular and plural verbs in the same story. I was mainly referring to that one sentence in particular that simply sounds jarring to this American.

And since it's not really a soccer thing --- the British use plural verbs for teams in all sports --- are we going to adapt that style for the Olympics? We didn't five months ago.

USA wins Olympic gold in thrilling men’s hockey final against Canada
 
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Not sure why that matters. "British soccer English" has become the norm, regardless of the nationality of the author or commentator. Hell, ESPN sometimes screws up and uses singular and plural verbs in the same story. I was mainly referring to that one sentence in particular that simply sounds jarring to Americans.
He writes for The Athletic FC - which is based in London. He's not writing for an American audience.
 
I’ve heard actual soccer people say Argentina doesn’t really try to score until they give up a goal, which is also what my untrained eyes observed.

Seems like a precarious way to try to win. It worked until it didn’t.
 
I would link to the thing listing one ESPN writer’s opinions of the “best” teams in the tournament, but then I realized he’s that guy who insists on using the Roman numeral XI for 11 and no, seriously, **** that guy.

Don't know the exact context, but to say something like "Argentina's XI" is a relatively standard, if somewhat British construction synonymous to "starting lineup." It would be XV for rugby.

I admit to trying to make IX-player football a thing in my section but it hasn't exactly caught on. (This is mostly because in Minnesota, competitive sections are also denoted using Arabic numbers so "Section 7-9 Man football" could read "section seven to nine man football."
 
I’ve heard actual soccer people say Argentina doesn’t really try to score until they give up a goal, which is also what my untrained eyes observed.

Seems like a precarious way to try to win. It worked until it didn’t.
I have a theory that a lot of Argentina's strategy involved load management for Messi, who is 39. Try to save him for when they need him. Worked against England, but not against Spain.
 
I’ve heard actual soccer people say Argentina doesn’t really try to score until they give up a goal, which is also what my untrained eyes observed.

Seems like a precarious way to try to win. It worked until it didn’t.
I've always worked better on a deadline, too. My editors were always fine with it until I missed one.
 
I have a theory that a lot of Argentina's strategy involved load management for Messi, who is 39. Try to save him for when they need him. Worked against England, but not against Spain.
If I remember correctly, the commentators said something about this during the match yesterday. They pointed out that he kind of meanders for much of the game, but then added that Argentina did want him working too hard for all 90+ minutes so he would be fresh for the whole game.
 

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